LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Bama OSU Washington Clemson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 bama osu Clem PSU take that to the bank I did kind of leave out Clemson....I'd rather see us rematch PSU to silence the haters then take on the winner of bama and whomever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Alabama tOSU Penn St Washington Clemson is out, too many close games, lost to an unrank team at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 1. Bama 2. OSU 3. Washington 4. Clemson Should be 8 team field... 5. Michigan 6. Penn State 7. USC 8. Western Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Final rankings will be: 1. Bama 2. Clemson 3. Ohio State 4. Washington 5. Michigan 6. Penn State ______________ If I were doing final rankings, it would be: 1. Bama 2. Penn State 3. Clemson 4. Ohio State 5. Washington 6. Michigan ________________ In 8 team playoff (what it should be), this is what it should look like: 1. Bama 2. Penn State 3. Clemson 4. Washington 5. Ohio State 6. USC 7. Michigan 8. Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 If Ohio State makes it into the playoff (and I can see them being left out for Penn State), they'd better get their shit together or else they'll get embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Bama Clemson Washington PennST What the committee will pick based on bowl locations and teams Bama Ohio st Washington Clemson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 It's crazy to watch all these long throws.. I sometimes forget that's what quarterbacks are supposed to do... Yup. And I think that has been a problem for Ohio State - the field isn't being stretched vertically enough and there is no threat of a deep ball, which effectively allows teams to crowd the box. This was exactly why Ohio State did so well in playoff in 2014: Cardale had a gun and could wing it, and we had receivers (devin smith, I love you!) who could make grabs, and it amounted to the perfect recipe: deep ball + Elliott = impossible to stop either. I'd like to see us going to a very simplified - almost juvenile - playbook: 1. If passing, you have 1.5 seconds to throw 2. After 1.5 seconds and no pass thrown, then Barrett runs with ball Barrett will have like 50 carries a game. Don't care. I will take a 4 yard gain on QB scramble over 6 yard loss on sack anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Yup. And I think that has been a problem for Ohio State - the field isn't being stretched vertically enough and there is no threat of a deep ball, which effectively allows teams to crowd the box. This was exactly why Ohio State did so well in playoff in 2014: Cardale had a gun and could wing it, and we had receivers (devin smith, I love you!) who could make grabs, and it amounted to the perfect recipe: deep ball + Elliott = impossible to stop either. I'd like to see us going to a very simplified - almost juvenile - playbook: 1. If passing, you have 1.5 seconds to throw 2. After 1.5 seconds and no pass thrown, then Barrett runs with ball Barrett will have like 50 carries a game. Don't care. I will take a 4 yard gain on QB scramble over 6 yard loss on sack anytime. The Problem with that versus Bama is they don't let a qb get outside the pocket very well. They contain them and have adjusted their D because of rushing QB's. You are absolutely right on why OSU did well against Bama in 2014. Bama didn't plan for a guy who can throw the deep ball. So they kept rushing the qb and Cardale exploited our secondary. Edited December 4, 2016 by Lauren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 There is simply no way you can put a team that lost by 39 to anyone in the playoffs (PSU) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 There was something out there that basically said a few of the receivers are totally trash and JT is fine throwing the deep ball. Let me find it Found it. First blurb https://www.google.com/amp/www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-sessions/2016/12/77552/skull-session-ohio-state-jt-barrett-deep-ball-greg-schiano-joey-bosa-noah-spence%3famp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 There is simply no way you can put a team that lost by 39 to anyone in the playoffs (PSU) They didn't have one starting LB on the field that game if I remember correctly. and if head to head comparisons matter, PennST didn't need overtime to be Wisconsin, PennST murdered Michigan st were OSU won by 1 point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 They didn't have one starting LB on the field that game if I remember correctly. and if head to head comparisons matter, PennST didn't need overtime to be Wisconsin, PennST murdered Michigan st were OSU won by 1 point. 1. Still a 39 point loss 2. Beat them by the same margin on a neutral field vs at Camp Randall. Advantage Buckeyes. 3. That margin won't come into play because.... 4. Ohio State has a top 10 OOC road thumping and Penn State has none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Pitt fans should be rejoicing today, they most likely single handily kept PSU out of the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 If there was a rematch between OSU and Oklohoma right now Oklohoma wins by 10 on any field. Completely different team then septembers team. Bama vs USC would be different as well. I think Bama only wins by 14 against this USC team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who the fuck is Oklohoma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 There was something out there that basically said a few of the receivers are totally trash and JT is fine throwing the deep ball. Let me find it Found it. First blurb https://www.google.com/amp/www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-sessions/2016/12/77552/skull-session-ohio-state-jt-barrett-deep-ball-greg-schiano-joey-bosa-noah-spence%3famp More on this. KJ Hill missed 5+ games with injury, was limited in many more, and has the 2nd most receptions by a pure WR this season. Highest YPR too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 There was something out there that basically said a few of the receivers are totally trash and JT is fine throwing the deep ball. Let me find it Found it. First blurb https://www.google.com/amp/www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-sessions/2016/12/77552/skull-session-ohio-state-jt-barrett-deep-ball-greg-schiano-joey-bosa-noah-spence%3famp Ironically, that blurb suggests that Barrett's regression as a downfield passer is fallacy, and then proceeds to post statistics (completion of passes 20yrds+ to certain WR's) that suggest he has regressed each year: completion percentage to D Smith [2014] > M Thomas [2015] > C Samuel [2016]. Not the most compelling argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Devin Smith was a once in a lifetime deep ball talent. Barrett's overall deep completion percentage is higher than 2014. 2015 is too small of a sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 The true culprit might be the OL play: I'd think it was better in 2014 and 2015 than it is this year. If Barrett has no time to throw (he rarely does anymore, it seems), then it's difficult to complete any passes, and especially those way down the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Devin Smith was a once in a lifetime deep ball talent He's a once upon a time prince and you will use a heart symbol <3 every time you type his name or I will not like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Also I dont call going 5/10 to 7/15 "regressing". Especially when there were 33% more attempts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 AP poll just sent a message to the committee. OSU still #2, and the point gap between OSU and PSU (#5) is huge. The point gap between Washington (#4) and PSU is huge too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I think Washington is the most nervous. I know the committee isn't supposed to consider this but with how much money is involved there is no way they don't. If anyone saw the P12 championship game they saw that the stands were only about 70% filled. That's completely unacceptable. College Football is a huge money maker and if Washington can't even fill the stands in their conference championship game they certainly won't for the playoffs that will be further away and way more expensive. This is why teams like Ohio State typically get the benefit of the doubt. Am I sayin college football is corrupt? Not exactly. Is college Football a big business money maker? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Also I dont call going 5/10 to 7/15 "regressing". Especially when there were 33% more attempts 5/10 = 50 percent 7/15 = 47 percent I'm not sure what math you use, but my cheat sheet here shows that 47 is less than 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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