redkow97 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Reading a few other threads got me thinking about what I really value in a street bike.I have said for a while now that my next street bike will probably be an SV650, but now I'm reconsidering.My criteria are:- lots-o-torque (i.e. I've all but written-off anything but a twin)- cheap(ish). older is okay as long as i can find parts.- easy to work on/low maintenance (possibly meaning air-cooled and/or belt drive, which is the only reason I remotely question the SV650)- decently comfortable if I wanted to throw on luggage for a longer trip.- handles well enough to have FUN at a trackday, but no misapprehensions about setting lap records. (i.e. XR1200 or other cruiser-biased bikes aren't off the table)...did I just convince myself I want an older Ducati Monster 900? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hue jass Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 How 'bout an SV1000? Or an RC. Oh, sorry - missed the part about luggage. Carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 SV1000 would be one I'd consider, but I have encountered a couple people with major issues with those.. I'd have to look up what they were, but it seemed semi common.an RC wouldn't be comfortable enough to live with on a daily basis, or for long trips. Something like a SuperHawk might though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Tuono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carwhore Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'd like to have an aprilia 550 sumo, if they didnt blow up. V-twin FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie.harris Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) i would say busa but its not a twin...then go put some whistle tips on it and rock it like a twin Edited May 12, 2011 by scottie.harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I would have to say look at a fz1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Nothing bad to say about z1000 or FZ1, but they aren't cheap to buy or insure.If I start leaning toward the liter I-4 route, I'd be more inclined to check out older Bandit 1200's, and just strip it down so it looks more like a naked SV650 Edited May 13, 2011 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 or a new FZ8 saw one at iron pony last weekend.. look great.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfrrwb Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Ninja 1000, GSX-1250 FA, Multistrada 1200 but none of those are cheap:(But it does sound like you're describing an old Bandit, tons of those around for cheap and most of them farkled out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I hate to be that guy, but what about a VStrom? The DL650 and the DL1000 both fit what you're looking for minus the belt drive/air cooled. Honestly, I won't ever own another air cooled bike and I don't think belts are any better than chains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 first gen vmax.... tons of torque, cheapish, shaft drive so no sprockets or chain or belt to change (change fluid every 17k miles), not the most comfortable bike but with a good seat long rides are doable, and with a couple suspension mods you "could" hit the track....people do race them sometimes, but you wont be setting records....they even make rear-sets and clip ons to help give them a little more of a handling boost....and did i mention a ton of torque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 maybe check into and older triumph tiger. any triumph triple for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Ninja1000 would be my first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Still positive you've described a Tuono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 a triumph tiger or speed triple or street triple with a new seat will have plenty of storage room with luggage and power. and you could easily track the speed and street.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 SV1000 would be one I'd consider, but I have encountered a couple people with major issues with those.. I'd have to look up what they were, but it seemed semi common.an RC wouldn't be comfortable enough to live with on a daily basis, or for long trips. Something like a SuperHawk might though.I just bought an SV1000S. Really good for what it is. Fully adjustable suspension, stiff frame, and the motor has plenty of low end grunt. Add hard bags and it would be a very sporty sport tourer. I've not heard of major issues, but there are a few 'characteristics' to get used to...like a noisy clutch basket. But that may seem quiet compared to a Ducati Monster clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Nice pick up, but what prompted the purchase of a second large liquid-cooled twin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Guys. He said "lots-o-torque". Ninja 1000? Really?OP, you definitely just described a Tuono. If you didn't mention the luggage part and long distance comfort I'd have said RSVR1000.- lots-o-torque (i.e. I've all but written-off anything but a twin)Check. Not just numbers, proper low-end delivery.- cheap(ish). older is okay as long as i can find parts.$4500-7000. Parts are abundant through online sources- easy to work on/low maintenance (possibly meaning air-cooled and/or belt drive, which is the only reason I remotely question the SV650)Typical maintenance schedule, motors have been known to last 70,000+ miles with generic schedules.- decently comfortable if I wanted to throw on luggage for a longer trip.Toss the bags on and ride upright wherever you want comfortably.- handles well enough to have FUN at a trackday, but no misapprehensions about setting lap records. (i.e. XR1200 or other cruiser-biased bikes aren't off the table)Oh, it handles well. OROR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 SV1000 would be one I'd consider, but I have encountered a couple people with major issues with those.. I'd have to look up what they were, but it seemed semi common.an RC wouldn't be comfortable enough to live with on a daily basis, or for long trips. Something like a SuperHawk might though.What kind of major issues? Only problem I've have in my 4 years and 36,000 miles is the stator just quit this spring. And the SV is easily set up for touring with a triple tree swap to the naked bars. The 650 is setup that way, but my 1000 has the stock clip-ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I found older (but still pretty low mileage) bandits for as low as $2300.as much as I said I wanted a V-twin, I'm not sure I can beat the value of 100hp and 64ft-lbs. of torque at that price... The only real complaint about them is that they heat your legs a bit, and the stock suspension kind of sucks. Pretty much what I expect from a bike in that price range.I did kind of want something loud and thumpy though we'll see SV1000 might be the other front-runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Nice pick up, but what prompted the purchase of a second large liquid-cooled twin?I prefer twins & I seem to cumpulsively buy bikes Plus, I got it for a deal. It has an LSL Superbike bar kit which is close to the naked SV1000 riding position (came with stock clipons too). Also has dual Microns (loud), a PCIII, and various other farkles.You're welcome to take a look at it if you have any interest in the SV1K. I think you're about 2 miles from me. Edited May 13, 2011 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motociclista Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 My criteria are:- lots-o-torque (i.e. I've all but written-off anything but a twin)- cheap(ish). older is okay as long as i can find parts.- easy to work on/low maintenance (possibly meaning air-cooled and/or belt drive, which is the only reason I remotely question the SV650)- decently comfortable if I wanted to throw on luggage for a longer trip.- handles well enough to have FUN at a trackday, but no misapprehensions about setting lap records. (i.e. XR1200 or other cruiser-biased bikes aren't off the table)Not that I'm necessarily recommending you buy one, but the only bike I can think of that meets all of your criteria, including optional hard bags, is the Buell Ulysses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I think the Ulysses kinda misses the "still fun for trackday" mark though. Co-worker has one. He loves it. Made multiple trips to Alaska on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motociclista Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 The trackday part was definitely the weakest link of the Ulysses, in terms of the original criteria. But on the other hand, I'd be just as happy on the track on a Ulysses as I would on a Bandit, which seems to be the most common suggestion.Again, I wasn't recommending a Ulysses so much as pointing out that it met his criteria, particularly low maintenance, belt drive and air-cooled. Personally, I'd suggest something liquid-cooled and I wouldn't worry about whether it was chain, belt or shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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