FZRMatt Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I had no idea Columbus was considered the 8th most dangerous city. And Ohio has 3 of the top 20 best police departments!http://theazon.com/2011/08/top-20-u-s-police-departments/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) *edit Edited December 30, 2011 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) looking at it closer though...doesnt appear to be a "most dangerous" listlooks like a list of the most advanced or well equipped police forces....personnel and technology wise...the comments only mention the size of the departments and stuffwhen you said most dangerous i found it odd that dayton wasnt included since i have read a few dangerous city lists and dayton is on most of them....plus, honolulu is on the list...and we all know nothing bad happens in hawaii lol Edited December 30, 2011 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Wow never realized that, I have family in cincinnati but prefer columbus over cincinnati by far. Hell I'd rather be in downtown columbus than cincinnati at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 most dangerous cities in 2011 according to Forbeshttp://www.forbes.com/sites/johngiuffo/2011/10/03/americas-most-dangerous-cities/1. detroit, MI2. memphis, TN3. springfield, IL4. flint, MI5. anchorage, AK6. lubbock, TX7. stockton, CA8. tallahassee, FL9. las vegas, NV10. rockford, IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRMatt Posted December 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) looking at it closer though...doesnt appear to be a "most dangerous" listlooks like a list of the most advanced or well equipped police forces....personnel and technology wise...the comments only mention the size of the departments and stuffwhen you said most dangerous i found it odd that dayton wasnt included since i have read a few dangerous city lists and dayton is on most of them....plus, honolulu is on the list...and we all know nothing bad happens in hawaii lolI'm not sure where Forbes gets their data but the paragraph said the information was gathered from the FBI crime statistics. That information is taken directly from our reports. I am taking a stab and guessing they are including all forms of assaults, robberies, and homicides. The only reason we don't have a higher homicide rate is because we have kick-ass trauma hospitals. I would put our felonious assault rates up with any city in the country.*edit* just read where they get their info. Someone is incorrect. I did forget to mention that we are certainly not a technologically advanced department. We barely have cruisers that run. The one I was driving last night had 180,000+ miles on it. Edited December 30, 2011 by FZRMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgetz524 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 From the article linked above: Columbus is ranked the 8th most dangerous city in the United States of the 15 cities with a population of 700,000 or more, according to the FBI-based Morgan-Quitno rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 From the article linked above: Columbus is ranked the 8th most dangerous city in the United States of the 15 cities with a population of 700,000 or more, according to the FBI-based Morgan-Quitno rankingsgood catch!i assumed he meant the list was for the most dangerous cities, didnt know he was specifically referencing the paragraph under columbusi read the paragraphs for the first few cities and didnt see much about crime so i figured it meant something other than dangerous cities, which i think it does since it ranks columbus 7 but then says its the 8th most dangerouseither way - if columbus is the 8th most dangerous, i now feel better about traveling lol...sure theres some parts of columbus i wouldnt go at night, but it really doesnt seem that bad here compared to some places ive been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm not sure where Forbes gets their data but the paragraph said the information was gathered from the FBI crime statistics. That information is taken directly from our reports. I am taking a stab and guessing they are including all forms of assaults, robberies, and homicides. The only reason we don't have a higher homicide rate is because we have kick-ass trauma hospitals. I would put our felonious assault rates up with any city in the country.*edit* just read where they get their info. Someone is incorrect. I did forget to mention that we are certainly not a technologically advanced department. We barely have cruisers that run. The one I was driving last night had 180,000+ miles on it.i misunderstood the list setup they have going....they list columbus at 7, then in the paragraph say its the 8th most dangerous...and for the other cities they dont mention crime for most of them...so im not sure what they are using to determine what makes a department a "top" department lol....either way, the paragraph for columbus says its the 8th most dangerous, which is news to me! lolmaybe you should apply for increased hazard pay now also - the discrepancy between forbes and your article could come down to the comment "of the 15 cities with a population over 700,000"...perhaps some of the cities listed in forbes are below 700k.....especially detroit? does anybody still live in detroit? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 the fact that the Cleveland police have been awful for years and that OTR in Cinci isn't on the most dangerous list make my opinion that these lists are bogus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm strapped and ready to party, bring the danger with a side of violence and pasta for desert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRMatt Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 i misunderstood the list setup they have going....they list columbus at 7, then in the paragraph say its the 8th most dangerous...and for the other cities they dont mention crime for most of them...so im not sure what they are using to determine what makes a department a "top" department lol....either way, the paragraph for columbus says its the 8th most dangerous, which is news to me! lolmaybe you should apply for increased hazard pay now also - the discrepancy between forbes and your article could come down to the comment "of the 15 cities with a population over 700,000"...perhaps some of the cities listed in forbes are below 700k.....especially detroit? does anybody still live in detroit? lolMy guess is that the difference is what crime is being counted. One may be only counting felonious assaults and homicides and another may be counting regular assaults, rapes, armed robberies ....etc.And I agree, we should go for hazardous duty pay when our dinner infraction expires. However, the fact of the matter is that we will probably end up giving up pay because we have cops negotiating our contracts and something we just shouldn't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 most dangerous cities in 2011 according to Forbeshttp://www.forbes.com/sites/johngiuffo/2011/10/03/americas-most-dangerous-cities/1. detroit, MI2. memphis, TN3. springfield, IL4. flint, MI5. anchorage, AK6. lubbock, TX7. stockton, CA8. tallahassee, FL9. las vegas, NV10. rockford, ILI agree for sure with 1,2,4,6,and 7. I'm surprised Gary, IN and several NJ Cities didnt make high on the list. I personally don't care for Chicago, Gary IN, almost any Mexican border town, Detroit, west Memphis AR, Memphis TN, or most of NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) If I remember right... the 2010 list (Forbes) had 4 Ohio cities ranked very high out of 50.And Miami was way low, go figure. Detroit unfortunately was at the top of the list.edit: ok, it depends on which list is used. Some factor in auto accidents or even natural disasters.But all are taken from FBI statistics. But the original looks nothing like a list.There are dozens of sets of data. Violent crime per 100,000 of population is the correct way to look.It's more or less spreadsheet data, and has to be downloaded, sorted and interpreted.The result is a variety of lists, that don't all say the same thing.That Forbes list is a popular interpretation of the FBI data.One of the 2010 FBI top 400 list (Crime in the United States 2009) for city crime rate (violent crime) said:7. Cleveland20. Dayton24. Cincinnati27. Toledo37. Canton47. Akron49. Columbus(Violent crimes are murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault, followed by the property crimes of burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft. Arson excluded.)Still looking for accurate 2011 (for 2010) data. And haven't yet looked at the official 2012 (preliminary 2011 data). Edited December 31, 2011 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 most dangerous cities in 2011 according to Forbeshttp://www.forbes.com/sites/johngiuffo/2011/10/03/americas-most-dangerous-cities/1. detroit, MI2. memphis, TN3. springfield, IL4. flint, MI5. anchorage, AK6. lubbock, TX7. stockton, CA8. tallahassee, FL9. las vegas, NV10. rockford, ILAnchorage??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Anchorage???Yeah. They are so remote up there people get bored and go crazy easily. Alaska is pretty tough on crime. First OVI offense carries mandatory jail time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew95gt Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 The only reason we don't have a higher homicide rate is because we have kick-ass trauma hospitals. I would put our felonious assault rates up with any city in the country.I agree with this. I work part time down at Grant Medical Center and see the lives being saved everyday. I had no idea how much crap really goes down in Columbus until I started working there, it's kind of scary and sad at the same time. I still really like the town...crime and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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