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Proof? Please don't tell me, "because Obama and Cameron say so." The UN inspectors haven't concluded anything yet as far as I'm aware. The Syrian government says the rebels used chemical weapons. The rebels say it was the government. My personal stance, we should follow Israel's example:

I am opposed to getting involved, but for different reasons. Assad using chemical weapons on crazy Arabs is far more effective than anything we could do. And make no mistake, the people he is gassing are no better than he is. I would hope Iraq, Afgan and Egypt have at least taught us that.

i dont understand why we cant just sit back and let the other 2 assholes blow each other up and not worry about it unless some threat is made towards the US. Fuck this so called ally shit because they don't do a god damn thing for us half the time anyway. Or better yet, if they both can't get along blow the 2 fucking countries off the map and put up one giant ass parking lot. Fuck em all, I'm sick of this shit

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I'm opposed to involvement because we don't need to get involved in their civil war. (Unless involvment means nuking all of the Middle East) Also, if we do go in, it will be a never ending "peace-keeping" mission again. They won't be willing to do what is necessary to suceed. If they were willing to fully engage with air power, unrentless tomahawks and arty, loosen ROE/EOF, and persue over borders to prevent fleeing/hiding out, we could end this quickly with a significant show of violence of action. Hell a response like that could get countries to take us seriously again. The Middle East would hate us more, but who really gives a shit about what they think? Once they are out of oil, they will be ignored by the civilized world. But that won't happen. We'll dip our toe in the water and get stuck in the pool.

I'm sick of us doing all this nation building in other countries. We have our own problems to deal with. Let's build OUR nation.

Typical Magz... Here's the actual document if you have any more questions: http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2161-docs.pdf Page 43. Page 45, middle of the page.

shouldn't we take a look at our own country before making a statement such as this?

Thanks for pointing this out to us. The ZX12 you were interested in now has a new Yuasa battery.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/pentagon-labels-founding-fathers-conservatives-as-extremists.html http://rt.com/usa/us-military-extremism-terrorism-right-963/ http://www.examiner.com/article/defense-dept-teaching-documents-brand-conservatives-as-extremists

Use the money you saved to by a Big Mac.

who will bite the bullet and post the granny titty?

you watch weird german porn

Remember when George Costanza did everything the opposite of his instincts and life finally started working out for him? Perhaps you should adopt the same philosophy when it comes to expressing you thoughts on politics, guns, world affairs, and even how to wire a dune buggy.

are you being intentionally obtuse? seriously, this is why i question whether you're going all rain man minus the math tricks sometimes. i'll try to word this so even tard can understard ready? here we go: it bad when founding fathers are considered bad. it matter not if dictionary says "extremist" bad nor good. duuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrr hodor hodor hodor hodorhodorhodor hodorhodorhodorhodorhodorhodor hodorhodor do you get now?

It's way past time we stop getting into shit that we get mired in and don't know how to get back out of. Where's the rest of the world? Let someone else take care of this shit. Where's Russia? Japan? Canada? England? France? Germany? Why the fuck us all the time? We can't afford this. It's our kids dying in other countries that don't give a shit about us, and mostly hate us unless we are doing something for them. I'm sick of this shit! .

I never would have donated to them in the first place but thats just me. I only donate to 2 things, dogs and boobies. well ok and pretty much any cancer because Fuck Cancer

I'm somewhat glad I'm no longer in the military at my age and place in life with respect to valuing liberty and smaller federal footprint in our Republic. For anyone with even half of a brain and wants to call themselves an American, to even think that our founding fathers and the colonists were extremists reveals a totally fucked up worldview that is simply beyond the pale and comprehension of normal people with a functioning mental capacity. I'm in with the conservatives, Christians, and anyone else who values the rule of law, the Constitution, and living as free men owing nothing to anyone and more importantly, the Fed's.

I'm not thriled about 0bama's and Kerry's misguided uproar based on "morality" issues within the Syrian conflict with the alleged use of chemical weapons when the fucking rebels are telling children to behead civilians....to name just one of their atrocities against the civilian popluation. IMO, the key point to all of this for us is to not act stupidly because no matter who comes out on top, it won't be good for our agenda in the region and I'm even questioning that with respect to 0bama who is fucking dud with his anemic foreign policy.....and especially with Russia. We need to stay the fuck out of it, period, and let them kill each other off.

^^^ohhhhhhhhh instead of blowing money we should actually MAKE money on this situation. Just gather up all the 1026 repo reality tv shows and send them over their to get our shit back. Would be the #1 hit show on TV

Stop it with your facts Mr Casper!

My military cousin is super excited about it, he's currently stationed in hawaii. Me, personally... yeah I really wish we weren't the world police, Maybe if the UN weren't quite so inept we wouldn't feel compelled to intervene in everything. I agree that Someone should do something, but does it always have to be us? Trash needs taking out, who's gonna do it...

Sarcasm , it's what's for dinner. .. sent via GS3

No razor can handle my epic 'till riding season' beard. When the time comes I will have to go to a machine shop and get it trimmed on the band saw, then have them mill the rest down.

Good guy, Great cause. 10,000 miles, 48 states, 10 days. www.thejourneyofandrewbyrd.com Starts & ends in Columbus Ohio. Departure September 8th. www.ironony.com www.ponypowersports.com www.avonmoto.com www.gerbing.com www.amsoil.com

I called and placed my deposit on a Grom about seven weeks ago at a semi-local Honda Power Dealer. "We've got a list of people who want to be called when the Groms come in, but no hard deposits yet. You get your choice of color, and the first one in the door is yours". Sweet. I called the salesman twice over that seven week period to see if he had heard anything, and emphasized on the second call that I wanted to receive a black Grom in the crate. "Why do you want it in the crate?". "Because I don't want one that the shop staff have been wheelying and doing stoppies on out behind the shop". "Okay". I started bouncing around here on Hondagrom.net and other forums on Thurs Aug 15 when there were reports of the bikes starting to arrive. I was anxious because this is the first new bike I've bought in 20 years, and because we were leaving very early morning on the 17th to go out of state on vacation. "When the bike comes in, we'll call you". Friday comes and goes, and no word from the dealer. I took the day off from work in order to get ready for vacation, and had a relaxed day. Saturday morning Aug 17th we're on the road two states away when my phone rings at 10am. Its my sales guy and he says (you guessed it...) "your bike is HERE!". I explained to him that we were on our way out of town for a week of vacation, and the earliest I can pick it up it Monday Aug 26. He confirms that its still in the crate, verbally confirms the date, and he even texts me a photo of the bike in the crate, back in the warehouse/ shop. I told him to put it in a corner in the shop, forget about it, and I'd be in on Monday 28th to get it. "Okay". I ask him when they came in. "They came in yesterday" (Friday, the day which I had nothing major going on). I ask him why he didn't call me, and he says "I was off yesterday. The other two buyers came and got theirs. Yours is the only one left". (Note: I THINK that the other two buyers must have seen them on Facebook or been on their "call list". I don't do Facebook, and didn't see that they had come in. On Tuesday afternoon I get a call from him. "We took it out of the crate. Do you still want it?". WHAT?!?! "Why did you do that?" "Sales manager told me to. We have some locals who want to see it, so we put it out on the floor. Do you still want it?". "No. I told you that I wanted it in the crate, you agreed, and I am the only one confident enough that I wanted it to actually put money down and wait". So he says "We're working with the regional Honda rep to get another black crated one in here for you". Huh? No dealer is going to have "extra Groms" sitting around. "Yeah, sorry". I went in yesterday (Mon 08/26) because I was in the area for work, and made sure that my deposit was refunded. I ask the sales mgr why nobody called me on Friday 16th when the bikes came in. "we just didn't think about it. Sorry". One person puts a hard deposit on a sought-after bike, the other two bikes in the shipment fly out the door the same day that they come in, and NOBODY in a Power Dealer dealership thinks to give the deposit guy a phone call? Amazing. Big dealership physically, but on the occasions that I've been in there, they have never been very busy. I figured that they probably sold "my bike" early last week to one of the locals who were so anxious to see one. Nope. Sold it Saturday the 26th to a buyer from Indiana. "we sold all three to out of state buyers". (They rec'd three in the shipment, two black and one red). Saved themselves one day (sold Sat, closed Sun, and I would have picked it up Mon). On the bright side, a buyer from Indiana just moved up one spot in the queue and will get the next Grom that this dealer receives. And I've still got $3500 in my pocket (figuratively).

Which would make sense if the red cross payed your charity forward and gave the shit out, but they profit millions of dollars from it. I'm all for altruism, but not when the middleman is taking a cut.

Burn the Fucker down. There will he plenty of used groms on the market in a year when the neato factor wears off and people realize they bought a clown bike.

It's wintertime again already. Kinda sneaks up on ya, don't it?

38/40 is what I run most of the time because I'm slow 34/36 down in the Smokies though

Actually, they are Bush's WMD's there is little or no doubt they came from Iraq.

I got a long memory. I would be pissed and never let them touch a dollar of my money, after this. .

Prepare yourself: The people on this forum that stick up for dealerships will try ripping you a new one just because you think that the dealership didn't act with morality and integrity. That being said, you were completely correct. Dealerships like that deserve to die off. If any other retail store in the world acted like that, people would lose their minds. The thing is, motorcycles (and even most cars) aren't generally even big-ticket items. Think about it: the Tiffany jeweler in NYC sells 50x in a day what dealerships sell (and not talking about online sales, purely person-to-person) and if they acted like that people would stop shopping in the store. A dealership sells 3-5 bikes a day and they pull crap like that all the time. Granted, the reason they do it is because with such low physical numbers of sales they go for the guaranteed sale (someone comes in and says they'll buy it, they do it)...it's just shady and lacks integrity.

Don't knock the German Pr0n!

The extremist definition listed above does not in any way describe the colonists and founding fathers who were not supremists in their values and agenda to free themselves from an oppressive regime in England nor was anyone deprived of their civil rights because the outcome was completely the opposite. For someone to completely misconstrue the intent of the American Revolution completely reveals their utter ignorance and stupity.

Honey hush

What about our people? There is a point where we should start putting ourselves first. We have huge money problems in this country that are going to continue to haunt us in ways we can not yet imagine. There are other countries besides us. With all the money Saudi Arabia has, why don't they jump in? The rest of the world hopes we will jump in so that we become even weaker economically. This is part of the financial attack that has been promised will happen to us. O'fuckhead is just helping it along. Sign up and go. Jump on over there and straighten up those Arabs. Send us a postcard. Just stop sending our troops into shit that isn't for our defense. It costs us in lives, money, future progress, friendships, and all sorts of other shit. There are too many other countries that can take care of this kind of crap. They just let us because our stupid ass government is willing to spend us into non-existence and they will come in and buy us up for pennies on the dollar. There's a point at which we draw the line, and I'm drawing it now. Let some of the rest of the world clean up some messes at their expense instead of ours. It's always our pockets the rest of the world has it's hands in. Where the fuck does it end? .

even in cases where the country they founded, and in the country in which the original constitution that they drafted (albeit with revisions that don't deviate the Bill of Rights from its original intent) is still considered the supreme law of the land, you don't think it's fucked up? I never made a claim that extremism is always bad... i just don't think that the philosophies and ideals this country was founded on should be construed as extremist philosophies and extremis ideals. it doesn't make any sense.

So life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is an extreme viewpoint? They seem like inalienable rights to me. That is not an extremist view, unless your goal is to limit liberties.

Been using it for years. It freaking rocks. You download all the maps to your phone, I have all of North America on mine...about 1.3 GB. Be warned, it won't download them to your SD card...so they will use your phones storage for that. Yes you can force your own routes. Here is what I do: Sit down at my desk and make the route on my computer on Google maps...then fire up the phone and recreate it on CoPilot. Yea you can do it on the phone first but it's easier having it on a large screen. If I am at home I HDMI my phone to the TV so I can see better. I usually put in extra stops to force most of the route...then drag and drop the route as needed to fine tune. Yes you can drag the route however you want. I got a bluetooth mouse to make that easier. But it isn't that bad to do really, I did my whole Ozark trip in my hotel each night....takes maybe 10 minutes a map. Its really smart...you drive part of the route and stop for lunch and turn it off....when you fire it back up it knows you did part of the trip and picks up where you left off. Set the voice to Google TTS if you want voice driven directons...their voices don't say the street names, Googles does. You will need power to your phone when you nav with it. It sucks battery, but that is true of any map/gps program. GPS uses lots of battery. Fair warning, you will download it and sit there and look at it and try and use it and cuss me out and call me a retard. It is very different than Google Nav...it takes some getting used to. But once you see it their way you will love it. Saved my ass many times when there is no data around...which is pretty often if you travel the backroads on a bike. I highly recommend it. That said, take a peek at Mapquest....it is online of course, they have Android and Iphone versions. And I heard on the internets they have offline/no data capabilities also. Have not looked into it but theirs is free I believe.

Chicken strips don't mean much. Yes your leaning more in theory by not having big strips, but that comes down to body positioning . I've seen guys drag knee and have good sized strips, I've also seen guys who don't know how to ride , not have any strips, just throwing themselves Into a corner. I wouldn't worry about that aspect of things.

In before everyone jumps your case. Moral of the story: you should do Facebook.

So funny he had to post it again

You think the government still follows the will of the people. That's adorable!

you broke the first rule of shave club...

Next, dick pics. Or maybe gf/wife pics. "You got 36C on yours? Funny, when I got MY Audi, it came with 36D's. check 'em." This thread is gaaaaaaaaaaaaay. That is, unless you queers post nudes of your wife/gf to prove you're not and the veracity of claims made on the length of your Audi branded e-dongs. BTW, bro-tip: smart money goes for the VW, so as not to set yourself apart from your employees.

Get the Atlas by Volhund gearworks out of Columbus. I have tried a few belts... This thing is hands down the best I've tried. I wear it everyday. Have used it for multiple classes, when running IWB, Appendix and OWB. I will advise to get a size bigger then you think you will need. Volund Howard picked his up in a hiking or climbing store down in Cbus instead of ordering it online, I will ask him where it was.

Guy with a BMW told me my KLR was a cheap piece of crap. I told him it was all I could afford after marrying a playboy model. "Ride your own Ride!"

For the ladies: “I am ready for whatever's coming. I expect nothing but to be let down or turned away. I am alone. Goddamn. The shit hurts sometimes, but I realize what I am, what I have become. The alien man waved his arms up and down and noticed that he couldn't wave in the right language so he stopped.” How to live life: “There are so many hammocks to catch you if you fall, so many laws to keep you from experience. All these cities I have been in the last few weeks make me fully understand the cozy, stifling state in which most people pass through life. I don't want to pass through life like a smooth plane ride. All you do is get to breathe and copulate and finally die. I don't want to go with the smooth skin and the calm brow. I hope I end up a blithering idiot cursing the sun - hallucinating, screaming, giving obscene and inane lectures on street corners and public parks. People will walk by and say, "Look at that drooling idiot. What a basket case." I will turn and say to them "It is you who are the basket case. For every moment you hated your job, cursed your wife and sold yourself to a dream that you didn't even conceive. For the times your soul screamed yes and you said no. For all of that. For your self-torture, I see the glowing eyes of the sun! The air talks to me! I am at all times!" And maybe, the passers by will drop a coin into my cup.” “Don't do anything by half. If you love someone, love them with all your soul. When you go to work, work your ass off. When you hate someone, hate them until it hurts.”