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I think what everyone is saying is that I should have designed the tshirt because it wouldve been fucking fabulous.

I meet a lot of new riders that choose to start on 1000s while I'm at work. I'm usually able to keep most of them alive but the damage is often permanent. Take Tpoppas advice.

Thats @Isaac's Papa on Izzy. Sorry shoulda clarified.

Mtt turbine, perfect first bike. You're way too big for a little 1000 cc race bike... Everyone here is wrong, clearly you know more than the combined experience of this entire thread cause you've taken the BRC twice. (Honestly the person advising a bigger bike was probably advising a bigger "cruiser". You were riding a rebel, they thought you should be on a 883 Sportster, or a 700cc shadow rather than a 250cc cruiser)

The answer to your question is No. (Lot's of other good advice from experienced riders on this thread too. They are not giving this advice because they want you to miss out on the fun either.)

Horsepower is more important than engine size. A Ninja 650 twin is a good choice for a first bike. A 600cc inline 4 sportbike is not meant for new riders.

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Got my passport in the mail today - now I can stop worrying about it... Can't wait for this trip - now on to finishing my packing list, and checking it twice.

Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear. Don't by cheap gear.

Sir, do you have a portfolio and resume available? We are always looking for talented designers.

I've actually come full circle....I have a pretty extensive amount of experience on two wheels and a decent amount of skill, and I have a 2017 KTM 390 Duke on order for curvy back roads and track day duty.

Hayabusa, just stretch out the swing arm and add a bunch of chrome! the chrome will weigh it down so you will good.

I was in the same boat as you when I first started riding. I'm 6'3 and was around 260# when I got my F4i. All of my friends that I rode with kept saying I needed a bigger bike because I was too big. So in 3 months of riding I "upgraded" to a 929RR. Thankfully, and luckily, I never got myself seriously hurt. I was always told by my uncle with many miles under his belt to "ride your ride at your pace. It isn't a racetrack. Your goal is to make it to the end of the ride. Not to get there first." That line still rings true to me today. But I wish I'd have started on a different style of bike than the F4i. Something with less power to learn better throttle control. Instead of mashing the brakes on entry then hammering it out of the turn, being smooth with the throttle makes a world of difference. And having a good deal of power on hand doesn't make that easy to learn. Start small. Work your way up. There's a lot of good advice flowing thru this post. Take the time to soak it all in. There's always items available to make riding position better like a set of Helibars or another bar riser setup. Or just go buy the literbike, and toss it, spend a few days in the hospital (if you're lucky) and then say you wish you'd have started on something with less power....the choice is ultimately yours.....

lol too late I may buy this bike.

a 600cc sportbike (~400lbs weight, 100+hp) has a much great power to weight ratio than a C6 corvette. i'm trying to remember the last time i recommended a vette as a first car. i'm having a hard time remembering this occurring... i don't think my mullet was bitchin enough to retain memory of the incident. a 1000cc bike is... umm... i don't think there are many comparisons. i'm not even sure what you're looking to get our of this thread... you're not really even asking a question, you just flat out state that you're buying a 600rr or whatever sportbike... so go buy one. they're all basically the same except kawasaki has the worst oil change setup (at least a 2008 zx6r does), close your eyes and just pick at random. bikes are all about that sweet sweet personal responsibility. this is why all my motorized two wheel conveyances are 125cc or less.

As a graphic designer by trade, I can tell you that it doesn't matter whether you are designing a t-shirt for a softball team, a print ad for NASA, or a motion graphic for a multi-million dollar company....you will ALWAYS receive criticism, and rarely is it constructive. I've had to get very good at shrugging it off. It's one of the hardest parts of my job. Design is subjective. Everyone has an opinion. Sometimes an emotional opinion, and sometimes someone will say "I don't know why I don't like it. Maybe cause that thing reminds me of a (insert nonsense here). Usually the only criticism I take seriously comes from other designers, because I know they understand the theory of design, and why some things work and some things don't. So, all of that being said.....don't take the criticism so hard. You were going to receive it NO MATTER WHAT you produced. That's just how it works.

SMH, a liter bike for a first bike is just asking for trouble. Save yourself some upfront money, and insurance money and avoid a supersport. Look for SV650, FZ6r, F4i, CBR500/650, Ninja 650. These bikes will feel like a rocket ship compared to the 250 at your MSF course. Then take that saved money and invest in good quality gear or accessories towards the bike you chose.

RR just means race replica. The cbr600rr is Honda's race replica supersport street legal bike. The cbr1000rr is their race replica superbike that's street legal. 600cc and 1000cc inline 4 bikes are not good for starting out. There are some good recommendations on what might make a good starter bike posted early on in this thread. 600cc inline 4's will make 100+ horsepower at the wheel, 120+ if they are tuned. A 650cc twin will make 55 horsepower at the rear wheel, much more manageable for someone just starting out. If you want a good, cheap starter bike, 300cc bikes are inexpensive and hold their value pretty well on the used market. If you're uncertain about fit, go to a dealer and sit on a few bikes and see what feels like it fits. I will tell you that I wish I had started riding on a standard bike instead of a sport bike initially. Being able to ride for longer than a couple hours at a time without feeling like my legs were going to need to be amputated at the knee makes the whole thing so much more enjoyable.

Neither a 1000 nor 600cc sportbike is a good choice for a first bike. It's the equivalent of a Ferrari for a first car. Cbr500r, Ninja 650, or Fz6r are much better choices for a first sporty motorcycle.

So, I haven't taken a long trip this spring. Planning on leaving Sunday for a 5 or 6 day sport touring and camping trip. I will probably run over and head down WV 16, love that road. Heading to the Gap and maybe the Blue Ridge. With the 3 hard bags and a dry bag on the passenger seat I should be able to camp anywhere.

Ahi Tuna nachos.

I just picked up a 690 Duke and I really like it. A lot more than I thought I would.

Some high quality sample imagery

And unfortunately they have one of these every couple of hundred miles too.

I'm thinking we may have a Gap Trip t-shirt this year if you can make it a vector image for printing.

I'd actually wear this shirt.

FTFY

Which brings me to another recommendation. When starting out, spend more on the gear than the bike. Get a good helmet, leathers, gauntlet gloves, boots, etc. Don't by cheap gear.

Yes. The critiques in class were brutal....intentionally. And I learned some valuable lessons from those critiques. But for whatever reason, it's easier to take criticism from a professor or fellow classmate that can back up an opinion with a sound, 'design theory' based argument. It's the criticism without sound reason that makes you crazy. It took me a couple years to figure out how to handle it. And it's still not always easy, especially when I know my design is good. But, that being said, there's always a nugget of truth in every critique, no matter how unreasoned. That where I try to find peace with a critique. Use it to make the work better. Like Paulie said, art is subjective which makes it approachable and open for discussion. But the field is unique in that professionals have their work readily critiqued by any layperson. Imagine people walking past a Doctor and saying "Uh sir, I think you should take another look at those X-rays. Maybe it's the lighting, but I think you may have missed something." Or walking past a civil engineer and saying "Ummmm, Mr. engineer...I know you're pretty far along on this project, and I'm ok with how the bridge looks in a general sense. But don't you think it would look better if you put it over there? And used a light blue paint for the abutment? I'm in a blue mood today." It is what it is. That the tough part about the job. But, I wouldn't trade being a designer for anything. No matter how hard my wife pushes me to get a Master's.

I always recommend getting something you don't mind crashing. Look for under 100HP, light, and cheap. Many great recommendations in this thread already. I'd add supermotos are stupid fun, great for taller people, and not overly powerful.

Life plus 40. Holy crap that's quite a sentence. Not sure I want to know the evidence now.

I like this! Decided to listen to the album and now I need to get Reminds me a little bit of these guys which is another fantastic newer album

I may be wrong here, but I thought that European countries had a tiered licensing system. Where you had to ride a certain cc bike for so long, then test onto a higher size and so forth. Sometimes I don't think that a bad idea for the States when the average lifetime of a new 600cc sportbike is only a few hours..

do a seach noob!

I pretty much stopped giving a damn about the opinions of anyone other than my closest family & friends sometime around 1988

"Starter bike" If you start at 1000cc where do you plan on going from there? You're only just below the absolute most powerful bikes available.

Open to offers,it's just sitting in the garage and gets started occasionally. Gonna be too busy to use/ride it. Warm weather priorities are the Camaro Z28,firearms/range time,and amusement park rollercoasters(Cedar Point).

Show up to an OMRL race and watch what 250 lbs guys can do on a 100cc bike. Whoever "instructed" you that a 250 was too small would likely get embarrassed by a good rider on a 250.

Hey, I am trying to earn extra passes out of the kitchen... If that means I am nice in a thread then so be it.

Derek, I plan on making this. I just put 90/10 streety tires on the V-Strom for a trip with the wife so I will most likely bring the VS Beast so "The Romer" is not the only ADV Bike in the group. P.S. Like your Throttle Lock stuff.

Blasting across the Santa Fe Trail to Dodge City today.

Welcome to the circus!

Ello!

Welcome to the OR community!

How-D !! Sit back and watch the show.