@David: I think you were bashing your Mazda and the shop more than anyone here... Dude buys a new car, he's happy about it, and people want to shit in his punchbowl. The Big Wheel comment was funny, though. A 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty provides quite a bit of peace of mind, and that, obviously, is worth quite a bit to David. I'm guessing it would be worth something to all of us. So what if he bought new? If no one bought new, those of us who buy used wouldn't have anything to buy. I prefer to find a one or two year old vehicle, less than 20k on the clock, and with some sort of "certified pre-owned" program. The certified programs push the warranty out (usually) to 100k, better than most of the new car warranties. If a manufacturer is willing to stand behind the car for 100k miles (new or used), I'm willing to consider them. As for Hyundai, I like the new Sonata and am seeing a bunch of 'em on the street. IF I were in the 4 door, family car market it would be right up there on my list. Both Hyundai and Kia look like they're trying to "step their game up" as far as styling, build quality, and warranties go.