mello dude

You may be able to find some leftovers in the $7500 price range. Dont over pay.

^^^^ Yup VFRs are so terrible.. I cant stand them pieces of crap so much that I've owned one for the last ten years +. I'm more of a 5th gen viffer guy instead of a 6th gen. But really either bike is sporty without being a rack. With minor suspension upgrades and a good rider, will hold its own against the RR bikes in the twists. Wont wear you out on a 400 mile day. No problem doing a multi-state trip as a week on the road. Wide power band vs 600s. Very flexible engine with a good hit on top. Amazing V4 sound. Bullet proof engine. A bit unique, not that many around. Good luck dude -btw nice 600.

Isnt the QS&L technically Fairborn?

http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/beavercreek-noise-ordinance-in-effect I have a carbon fibre and its a bit louder than I would like - maybe I'll just stay out of B'creek

I used Spiegler for my stuff --- I told them the lengths and fittings I wanted, and they worked out very well. It didnt hurt that I live about 7 miles from them.

Ok for Ohio - 25 over a mandantory RO and impound the vehicle? -- I got a 75 in a 55 ticket 2 year ago nd the LEO said if he could lock me in over 80 he would have to give me a RO......

Is a Rec Op by definition - anything 25mph over the speed limit? Is is a LEOs discretion?

I went back and reread that article and its still good as there is actual test data. I think that's how I decided to go with the MX4t M1 in my bikes. I think what would be interesting is if the Rotella oils were run on the same tests as an apples to apples comparison.

That be the one......

huh? This is what happens when you post something kinda stupid and then discover there is no delete post button - lol

The Snell group was kinda pissed at motorcylist for the results of the testing they did. Eventually Snell got wise and is revising thier standard for a new certification 2010 which account for some of the Dot/snell differerences. Any Snell 2010/Dot helmet now is a pretty good way to go.

http://www.ventura-bike.com/default.aspx

For fuel on the fire---- http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Consumables.html http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0308_oil/index.html http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0310_oil/index.html

Been using Bosche filters on the bike - $4.99 at Autozone. There's a chart out there with filter size comparisons. Gotta go digging for it.

There does seem to be quite a following of Rotella, lots of the touing bikes guys are using it. I'm not there yet, but curious. For the moment I'm on M1 Mx4T 10-40 or 4T Racing as its called now. -Really I think it comes down to - as long as you change your oil at resonable intervals, there is no bad oil. -- BTW I went to the local QSL bike night and there was a funny drag car in the parking lot. Guess what oil they are using? Yeah - Rotella..

Good looking ride!

I had a 4th gen too for about 7 years. Lots of good riding with that. I have had a Honda V4 of some kind 20 years +

One of my favourite roads is Rt 16 going south. I would probly then run 39 going east to Summersville for a break and pick up going east. Then pick up 219 going north or something like that. Its been a couple years since I've been over there - I had a rotater cuff injury the kinda grounded me for a while. -- I am really itching to just park it at one of the ski lodge towns and go exploring for day loops over there. I have have hit maybe 15% of the state. -- I highly recommend hitting the book store and pick up a Delorme West Virginia Atlas & Gazatteer. (Theres one for every state, grab an Ohio, mbe a Pennsilvania too.) Its a highly distailed map/grid of all the roads in the state about 80 pages worth. Its fantastic for planning riding trips. - I probly have 15 of them. http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=10096

Assuming your in Cleveland, I would drop through SE Ohio into West Virginia. Fine roads, Fine scenery.

I'm kinda broken record but VFR800 - 5th gen. The bike is sporty without being a rack. With minor suspension upgrades and a good rider, will hold its own against the RR bikes in the twists. Wont wear you out on a 400 mile day. No problem doing a multi-state trip as a week on the road. Wide power band vs 600s. Very flexible engine with a good hit on top. Amazing V4 sound. Gear driven cams, so no screwing with a timing chain. Simplier valve adjustment vs the 6th gen. Bullet proof engine. A bit unique, not that many around.

Looking for like minded experienced sport tour riders.

A 650? Jeez, Wifefy wont be happy on that little passenger seat. ----- Ditto on the apes, they gotta go.

LOL! I thought you fell in love with that '04 CBR? -- I was in a simular situation when I tryed to buy a used car. I test drove the thing and came back and told the owner "I'll take it." I didnt have the cash on me but wanted to go to my bank about 20 minutes away. There were some other people there that had the "cash in fist" and wanted to buy the car too. The owner wouldnt let me go to my bank and get the money. He took the cash in fist. Bastard ! I was there first!