Flashesbuck I understand your frustration. I often buy and sell bikes on CL as well and you come to expect these kind of things. You may even get offered a pool table here since you posted on this forum. I sold 2 bikes this summer and both of them came from Cycletrader ads I posted. You can post there for free for 2 weeks. Both of those transactions went smoother than any bike I have sold on CL. I personally post my bikes at blue book value if there clean and the mileage is good. Sold my own personal bike for $700 under book because it had 34,000 miles. Nice looking bike. GLWS