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I've sat on them myself. I feel ridiculous because the bike is so long compared to how tall I am. They are nice and low though - one of the few sport/sport-touring bikes that I can put both feet down on and feel comfortable. The 919s didn't come with compression/rebound damping adjusters? Nurkvinny, how experienced are you if you are worrying about things like that? edit: Dumbass me - I meant Ben, not Vinny.

These two do not go together. There are sportbikes that are 'more comfortable' but none that could be called supremely comfortable and good for long distances. Some people can tough it out, though and it doesn't bother them as much. How about a ZX-12 or a Hayabusa? You might also look at a ZX-9. The seats on them suck (at least in my opinion), but that is nothing a Corbin can't fix. What was you last bike?

Ebay is a another good resource. I bought my textile jackets from http://www.brocktoncycle.com.

I have a Rockford Fosgate HE, I believe it is. It's a couple of years old but still works nicely. 30 bucks? I might have a box that will fir the truck depending on how much room you have. Ported setup, etc. Uh....I just realized the sub is a 12, not a 10. Duh.

I didn't even catch that they were using regular and mixing E85 with it.

Who knows when they are going to implement e-check. That's why I keep my old H-pipe around - just in case.

Spaceghost, have you run this stuff in your Scooby? There is a huge thread on NASIOC on it: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341&page=4&pp=25&highlight=E85

Looks like the speedway on mainstreet in hilliard carries it. Any idea how much this stuff currently goes for?

Water injection used on an airplane would probably be there to simply cool the fuel/air charge (like an intercooler). Putting it into the fuel, however, wouldn't help - water doesn't burn and it is very difficult to split into it's constituent components. It would just displace the fuel and you'd have less power. Not to mention that E85 and water don't mix becaue E85 has gasoline in it.

Car is sold to a neighbor. Please lock!

Drew, what's a track day at Putnam cost and how does it compare to, say Mid-Ohio?

Nah - it's fun to say though. It is a sweet bike, just not a great street bike. I'm wondering when/if the pendulum will swing back away from race bikes to more streetable bikes?

Should I be looking for you on this? http://home.columbus.rr.com/lmosle/forumpics/jokerfront1.jpg

Chief8one - this is always a hot topic, and it's the middle of winter - we're all sort of itching to ride again. Anyway, looking for a bike to enjoy the summer with is not posing - it is what most people who ride buy a bike for - enjoyment. Since you aren't sure then an inexpensive bike would be ideal. I heard a stat that the average rider keeps his bike approximately 3 years, so chances are you'll upgrade in a few years if you really like it. Consider Josh (Got-Busa) has owned 4 bikes(?) since he was 17 and he is now 25.

Wow. 0wn3d by yourself. I can respect stunters because it does take skill and nerves to do it - I've never been interested in tearing my bike up (or hurting myself in the way some of those guys do), but some of those guys can do some AMAZING things on a bike. I doubt you are one of them, but I would be happy to watch sometime so you can prove me wrong. Let me know where and when and I'll try to make it. However, your bikes were designed for the track - not the strip and not for stunting.

I've ridden both, and while I can lay on the tank, it still becomes uncomfortable. In a more upright position, I've found may butt hurts after a while, but everything else is happy. I would think on a bike that has big ape-hangers your shoulders would get pretty tired, though.

Then stop making dumbass statements that 500s and SV650s are pussy bikes. Any idiot can twist the throttle and go fast (you're proof, assuming you have a bike). I'm not a road race guy, yet, but I do like to run the corners when I get chance and actually USE my bike for one of it's purposes, instead of drive from hangout to hangout.

Got-busa - I understand where you are coming from, but your advice read more like 'get a late model 600SS - anything else you'll be bored with', and everytime I have seen a 'I'm new to bikes and want one thread' you say the same thing - get a 600 or bigger. Lots of people have started on big bikes, even litres, but it is a simple fact that if you want to do more go fast in a straight line, not necessarily road race but hit the twisties, you will become a more competent rider faster on a smaller bike. I have never been on a trip that long - either you are really tall or just don't have any feeling in your body. A race-replica is not a comfortable bike compared to a bike with a more upright seating position. That is not opinion, it is a fact of physics. It is a fact stated by EVERY rider of a sportbike that I have EVER known. Some might be more comfortable than others, but none of them are what could be considered very comfortable for long hauls. Either that or I'm just a pussy.

I guess we kind of lost site of that. $2500 does limit what you can buy. Chief80one, I guess the question is what do you really want to do? Be honest with yourself. Is it to go fast in a straight-line, make a bunch of friends and hang out with them, look cool, pick up girls, commute, or hit the twisties? That will help you decide what bike to get. Nevertheless, something inexpensive with a smooth power delivery that won't kick you in the teeth too hard when you grab a handful of throttle or brake is what I would recommend. Unless there is a screaming hot deal (one of those too good to pass up deals), take the MSF first - that will give you and idea of what to expect.

Post up when you are ready to do this again - I would like to stop by and help/watch/drink/whatever. February is bad for me - too many birthdays.

You can be 100 years old - if you have NEVER ridden a motorcycle, you don't have a clue. I'm 5'9 and 175. R1s, 900RRs. I'd like to know what drugs you were on when you rode those bikes because they are not comfortable for decent length trips. Try taking a trip and riding one for a couple hours straight instead of squidding it around the city on an R1. The Hayabusas, from my understanding are comfortable, but they are sport-tourers, not race replicas. You are talking about race-replica motorcycles. My ZX-9 is more comfortable than my old F2 was, but I still wouldn't want to be forced to ride for 3 or 4 hours on it without a break, at least as it came from the factory. You want proof that a 600SS and bigger displacement sportbikes and even cruisers do not make a good beginner's bike? Look at the crash statistics. Look at the insurance. There is all the proof you need. Your 'advice' about starter bikes is not only wrong, it's simply dangerous for someone who has never ridden before. You can buy a used ninja 250 or 500 and turn around and sell it in a year or two for not much less than you paid. In the mean time you don't have to worry about dropping your shiny new bike (you will) and you aren't taking the insurance hit on a bike you will most likely (and should be) scared of. Good reading for newbies: http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=274759 http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=262785

Mustang-wise, I'm REALLY looking for an XCal2. A new set of wheels and tires wouldn't be bad to replace my stock 17x8s. Let me know what you have though, like I said, sometimes I forget the kind of shit I'm looking for, or I didn't even know I wanted it. PC-wise high-end, a 64-bit AMD and motherboard + memory and hard-drives. Like I said an air-compressor or welder would be very useful.

We aren't talking about someone with a little bit of throttle control and half a clue - we're talking about NEWBIE riders - they don't know what THROTTLE CONTROL is and as far as clues...it has to be unstated. Please don't claim that race replicas are comfortable - they are NOT - anyone who claims so is a fool or is lying to themselves. How many guys do you see putting all of their weight on their wrists because they can't use their backs to hold themselves up? The clip-ons are not there for your weight - they are there to control the bike. A peaky 600SS is NOT the ideal place to start for someone who has never ridden a bike. Drew's point about the SV650 is dead on, but even then a Kwack 250/500 or the GS500 are still better bikes for the beginner. A liter bike is just fine for the squid that wants to tool around on the streets going fast from light to light or flying down the freeway, but when you use the bike for what is was MEANT... 1_slow_600 - STFU. YOU most certainly don't know what you are talking about. Drew would hand you your ass on the street OR on the track in anything other than just an all out top speed run. You sound like the typical squid buying a race replica to look cool, squid around to the hangouts and 'pick up chicks'.

Here is one pic: http://home.columbus.rr.com/lmosle/taurus/taurus.jpg

+1, except for the fun part - who wants to ride around everywhere at 14,000 RPMs? I saw some dynos on sportbikes.net comparing the R6 to the 636 and the GSXR-600 - the R6 gets it's ass kicked EVERYWHERE except above like 14K RPMs. Here is the SBN link: http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=299647&highlight=yamaha+dyno And here is the dyno: http://www.motorfreaks.nl/fsget.php?id=16189 Look at how much the yammy is down to the 636 throughout most of the range - between 10 and 20 hp. Translation - not a good street bike and it will spend a LOT of time getting beaten in street races. Granted the Kawi has a bigger engine, but compared to the GSXR-600, the R6 is down throughout almost the entire range except the last 2000 RPMs. Ah...the Yamaha R6 - #1 choice of squids everywhere...