This thread delivers. The only thing I'll add is, it takes a small minded person to ignore facts or refuse to debate facts. I'm talking facts, not opinion. If you're posting something as 'fact' and you're not prepared to back it up with facts...again, not opinions....then prepare to be sodomized by the interwebz. This goes for the lefties, the righties and the folks who swing both ways. It's true, you can't convince someone of something if they are brainwashed or determined to believe the contrary (I read that on the internets, so it must be true). But, before you pull that card, you need to be able to present ACTUAL facts, not opinions based on an obscure article you read on the internet or heard on a biased talk show somewhere. I challenge everyone to come out of their comfort zone and actually digest their news and information from sources they would normally avoid. Start with something that isn't based in this country...branch out from there...and see the world from other perspectives. Do it quickly..so we can all get back to ridin' one handed whoolies while we fap with the other hand.