Mini prepping. (Covid-19 thread)

[NinjaDoc]

I feel like we might be off to a decent start so far compared to China.italy might have been unique,  Italy roughly 60 million in 120k sq meter space with major chunk smoking elderly. USA it’s 320 million in roughly 4 million sq meter with elderly in nursing homes and old age places too debilitated to be functional smoking and mingling. Don’t know if that makes any difference but at least here in Midwest it seems to be, coasts were more dense population and more active older folks in society is present it’s hitting harder. 
 

@snot regarding going back to old life I am hoping these peak in about 3 weeks and starts to plateau and wean off in 8. Just arbitrarily plucking these numbers based on what I am seeing just in my area. Started as 1 First then 2-3-4 came. Then now about 7-8 suspicious cases  pending confirmation , it still in its up swing.( test results takes forever) 

 

[NinjaDoc]

Don’t take this as a critic against the country, but high time our priority is reorganized. 
 

it’s amazing that we are spending 2 trillion on military equipment and fighting a war Against an Imaginary enemy some where that nobody wants and nobody wins. Throwing all the young men and women of the future on to that shit show only for them to return older and broken both in mind and body. Then the audacity to ignore them and then use them for votes and image building. 
 

mean while the next generation of enemy is not imaginary but invisible like a virus that’s going to eat away our very existence both in our real life and virtual world. Funding should be throw into research science both medical and other higher end socio techno financial end goals. 
 

It’s appalling to see the wealthiest and what used to be  front running nation among all of humanity reduced to a state that we are asked to reuse PPE for front line healthcare workers and having to ration our tests and wait years for results on who ever we were able to test.
 

We can be , should be better than this, hopefully this episode is a reset on everything. 
 

again this should also be an eye opener on health care delivery. Healthcare is something where we should strike a balance between. Capitalism and socialism. Because unlike wealth which we can accumulate based on our personal hard work, we are sometimes only as healthy as our fellow human beings are. This episode should open our eye, if majority of the population are unhealthy and cannot afford healthcare it doesn’t matter how much gold mark mega insurance we carry, we will also suffer. Let’s discuss that in another topic 

Edited March 20, 2020 by NinjaDoc

[Steve Butters]

My wife lost her job recently and she had three interviews for new jobs this week.... Every single one of them told her interviews are on hold until further notice... This shit is ridiculous. Yall sick mfs need to stay tf home. 

[snot]

The reusing of PPE and using "construction" grade N95 bothers me. How could we run out of mask or gloves?

I will NOT donate blood or platelets if the nurse is reusing gloves.

[NinjaDoc]

19 minutes ago, snot said:

The reusing of PPE and using "construction" grade N95 bothers me. How could we run out of mask or gloves?

I will NOT donate blood or platelets if the nurse is reusing gloves.

Don’t worry As of now we have enough gloves and stuff no worries there, just the masks and proper PPE. Plenty of rubber nobody uses it that’s all whtr it’s gloves tires or life itself. 
 

[marlboro man]

49 minutes ago, NinjaDoc said:

As of now information is less and ever evolving. 
 

without sticking to current statistics and ratio I will give an imaginary scenario 

island with 100 people

Let’s say covid can Infect about 60 of them easy- we can never say who it’s going to infect

of the 60 infected 30 will be okay can walk around spreading more 20 sick stay home 5 will need hospital and 5 icu. 

and in this island there is only one ventilator 

all that we are trying to do is to slow Down the rate of transmission to a point that the 5 that will show up for the vent shows up over a period of 5 to 10 weeks instead of all coming together in 1-5 days which means almost all dead. 
 

And the only way to achieve this is by slowing down the initial infection, and the subsequent spread from the infected. 
 

Even if a person with virus inside is not actively coughing and sneezing his oral nasal mucosa and saliva mucus secretions etc still can shed virus which at present seems to be pretty contagious. 
 

many young people who have the virus and can continue functioning will continue to have fun roam around touch everything and once a little old Lady is at the right place and the right time Will end up with a wrong fate 

This Worries ^ So you’re saying sorry if I breathe I spread it .i do service calls on rentals  i will only go right now  if i have to . i just got back from Fixing a Sump pump that caused a flood in a house that they said 3 of them have been sick a month  . got it fixed & Disinfecting anything i Touched  in my truck dropped my clothes on the deck jumped in the shower. I’ve always took care for years cleaning myself up with rubbing Alcohol in my truck after Service calls . I can’t find Rubbing alcohol anymore been using Dish soap it’s a pain but I hope it works . but now i have started Disinfecting my tools & my truck  I don’t know what else I can do ?. Can’t let people go without water or heat or flooding 

[NinjaDoc]

2 minutes ago, marlboro man said:

This Worries ^ So you’re saying sorry if I breathe I spread it .i do service calls on rentals  i will only go right now  if i have to . i just got back from Fixing a Sump pump that caused a flood in a house that they said 3 of them have been sick a month  . got it fixed & Disinfecting anything i Touched  in my truck dropped my clothes on the deck jumped in the shower. I’ve always took care for years cleaning myself up with rubbing Alcohol in my truck after Service calls . I can’t find Rubbing alcohol anymore been using Dish soap it’s a pain but I hope it works . but now i have started Disinfecting my tools & my truck  I don’t know what else I can do ?. Can’t let people go without water or heat or flooding 

Medicine is always risk vs benefit, even just taking a Tylenol has risk vs benefit. You doing the right thing, no need to worry. You have to take care of responsibility which there is no other solution. What is shunned upon is Gang of people just hanging out and spreading stuff for non life essential things like may be spring break. Protect your self as much as you can, wear mask and gloves during house visits etc. despite this , if you start to have symptom rest up heal up and don’t go out anymore for calls. 
 

but Sometimes I don’t know the right answer, I might be biased as well. As in I am critical of people are traveling via planes and mass transit for non essential trip etc, but what’s essential is an undefined entity. 
 

 If you ask me I will say for sure motorcycling is a safe hobby to pursue now( as I said I am biased)  ( the classic OR rides) since minimal human contact, minimal socialization, minimal gas stop, high quality all the PPE all the time, but some others might point fingers at that and say don’t do it. 

[Pauly]

1 hour ago, snot said:

The reusing of PPE and using "construction" grade N95 bothers me. How could we run out of mask or gloves?

I will NOT donate blood or platelets if the nurse is reusing gloves.

Because our government spends all of our money on tanks and bombers. 

[motocat12]

1 hour ago, Pauly said:

Because our government spends all of our money on tanks and bombers. 

After this I expect a sequel of the post 9/11 homeland security local grants for medical.

Also I didn't know that respirators expired. I can see why there wouldn't be huge stocks.

[TimTheAzn]

14 hours ago, SpecialEd said:

Times are hard for almost everyone these days, and the National Guard doesn't pay very well. Free food is good for morale.

Dude you need to shrink your signature picture lol.

[Tonik]

2 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

Dude you need to shrink your signature picture lol.

There is a setting in your profile to turn off sig's. I have had them off for some time 

[TimTheAzn]

Just now, Tonik said:

There is a setting in your profile to turn off sig's. I have had them off for some time 

He is literally the only member with a signature that is that big that posts on any kind of regular basis.

It's like in office space... why do I have to change? He's the one that sucks.....

[Qman]

WRT modeling, this looks legit...

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

 

[Tonik]

20 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

He is literally the only member with a signature that is that big that posts on any kind of regular basis.

It's like in office space... why do I have to change? He's the one that sucks.....

Sometimes you have to protect yourself from people that suck. Since this is the internet and we can't shoot him hiding the sig is our only option.

[TimTheAzn]

8 minutes ago, Tonik said:

Sometimes you have to protect yourself from people that suck. Since this is the internet and we can't shoot him hiding the sig is our only option.

Cant you admins edit his signature?

[SpecialEd]

2 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

Cant you admins edit his signature?

Please stop whining. i got rid of it. Your naked prejudice against old Hondas is off-putting.

[Tonik]

8 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

Cant you admins edit his signature?

As a mod I can't, admin can I am sure. Still wouldn't have done it, it wasn't bothering me since I have sigs off plus I get the bonus of watching you suffer.

[TimTheAzn]

7 minutes ago, SpecialEd said:

Please stop whining. i got rid of it. Your naked prejudice against old Hondas is off-putting.

I love the bike, just make the pic like 1/2 to 1/4 of the size like mine is. I have that bike's sporty brother sitting in my garage.

Edited March 20, 2020 by TimTheAzn

[motocat12]

44 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

He is literally the only member with a signature that is that big that posts on any kind of regular basis.

It's like in office space... why do I have to change? He's the one that sucks.....

no sigs for me either

 

[Tonik]

Wooo, I can edit sigs. Just found it. BRB, looking for a really large picture of an old bike to mod Tim's sig.

[2talltim]

Just canceled our cruise for April. Good news is since the wife probably can't get any more time off past July that might mean a week long bike trip for me in late summer. 

[Tpoppa]

9 minutes ago, 2talltim said:

Just canceled our cruise for April. Good news is since the wife probably can't get any more time off past July that might mean a week long bike trip for me in late summer. 

Now might be a good time to buy stock in cruise companies.  Carnival dropped from about $60 to around $10/share. 

[Tpoppa]

Corona isn't Trump's fault.
Ebola wasn't Obama's.
SARS wasn't Bush's
and only a handful of cases of herpes were Clinton's

[2talltim]

23 minutes ago, Tpoppa said:

Now might be a good time to buy stock in cruise companies.  Carnival dropped from about $60 to around $10/share. 

That's the plan if and when we get any or that money Trump says is coming. If not oh well. 

[SpecialEd]

8 minutes ago, 2talltim said:

That's the plan if and when we get any or that money Trump says is coming. If not oh well. 

I read this morning that the number they're batting around now is a one-time payment of $1,200 per person. Wife and I don't need the money, so we will likely just cash out and keep it as cash on-hand for now.

Parenthetically, I think Mike DeWine has been doing a marvelous job managing the many moving parts involved in this crisis. He is humble and personable, and has shown a warm sense of humor amid all the concerns COVID has caused.

Edited March 20, 2020 by SpecialEd