excell Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Tupperware, the plastic fantastic wonder Saturn, lost B1S1 today. I would normally spring for a Delco or Denso, but they're near and over a hundred bucks (respectively). The NG(T)K is $50, but I've never run one and don't know their quality. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 It's a Saturn. Anyways, their spark plugs are fine. I don't see why there'd be a quality difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 It's a Saturn. Anyways, their spark plugs are fine. I don't see why there'd be a quality difference. Exactly why I question. I don’t want to put quality money into the plastic A to B. Example: Bosch; mostly decent stuff, but they make awful oxygen sensors. Not keen on spending $50 if I'm replacing it in a year, where I could spend $125 and know that a Denso will probably survive the life of the car. I'm actually rather surprised we've lost a Delco with less than 60,000 miles - expected it to go well over 100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is it covered under the 100k mile emissions warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is it covered under the 100k mile emissions warranty? Yes, it is. But the $50 and 15 minutes to replace it myself is worth more to me than taking it in and putting up with warranty bureaucracy, lost time shuffling my wife back and forth, wasted fuel, and personal frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'll do it, I love fucking with warranty people :grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is this a public PM or what? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is this a public PM or what? LOL Don't start with us, you were the last person to work on this car... Just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I have never had any comebacks installing NGK stuff on customers cars, however I stick to Delco on my stuff. The price difference doesn't sound right tho, usually NGK is right up there as well, I would make sure you're comparing apples to apples ie platinums and iridiums. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Read the fine print where it says we cut the O2 wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 i cant believe you havent called me.... you slut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 i cant believe you havent called me.... you slut. It takes 10 minutes, lick me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgtp Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 NKG owns ECM - who provides the xxx,xxxx$ lab grade equipement used in the OEM test cels. They are very highly regarded (anyone who uses an NGK L1H1 or L2H2 with their wideband will atest) Nate on Carl's computer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 It takes 10 minutes, lick me. for a parts disount Ho-slut i can probably get the O.E cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 its a fucking saturn put a bosch sensor in it and let it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 What's wrong w/ Bosch? The Beater has been rocking one for over a year w/o problem. Get whatever is cheapest. KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 What's wrong w/ Bosch? The Beater has been rocking one for over a year w/o problem. Get whatever is cheapest. KillJoy Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. Bosch sensors come with almost anything...all AEM widebands are Bosch sensors, and I thought the Innovative widebands were the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgtp Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. Bosch sensors come with almost anything...all AEM widebands are Bosch sensors, and I thought the Innovative widebands were the same. Most aftermakert sensors are the LSU Bosch because of the cost / calibration requirements. L1H1 and L2H2 sensors are(were) considered lab grade equpiement suitable for OEM use. Bosch's units are great at their intended purpose (current emissions control) and have been accepted as suitable for motorsports. Nate (again on Carl's computer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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