Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I dont see this project ever working properly and why is that? he wants a bb street car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 and why is that? he wants a bb street car... I just dont see any reason to beat up a clean newer stang detail that thing sell it get some good money from it buy a fox with a big block already in it and profit, I see big block or roller foxes on cl or ebay for cheap, I guess my personal opinion would be not to mess up a perfectly fine car and put something in it that will cost more and require more time than most likely anticipated, Just my opinion but I would rather have a properly done big block notch or lx hatch than a new edge car that will require some crazyness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 and why is that? he wants a bb street car... P.S. I see you and tyler talking on here alot and I figured you were the inspiration behind this, most kids these days would never think of a big block swap...ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I just dont see any reason to beat up a clean newer stang detail that thing sell it get some good money from it buy a fox with a big block already in it and profit, I see big block or roller foxes on cl or ebay for cheap, I guess my personal opinion would be not to mess up a perfectly fine car and put something in it that will cost more and require more time than most likely anticipated, Just my opinion but I would rather have a properly done big block notch or lx hatch than a new edge car that will require some crazyness you do realize that a foxbody and a new edge are the same car right? what do you mean by "require some crazyness"? im using foxbody swap parts...and i could turbo my car all i want, but im still not getting more than 400rwhp without needing a bottom end...turbo plus bottom end is more money that it will cost to build the motor i want to build in it...already got a motor, waiting to get some machine work done and putting rings and bearings in it then its going together and ill start building from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 P.S. I see you and tyler talking on here alot and I figured you were the inspiration behind this, most kids these days would never think of a big block swap...ha i didnt push him..in no way have i...he asked me tons of questions. i answered them and its not my issue you cant grab the idea of a 460ci 9.5 to 1 motor making over 500 ft in very mild form. and even at 800 plus hp he dont have to worry about his 2 bolt block looking like a watermelon at a galiger(sp) show. I just dont see any reason to beat up a clean newer stang detail that thing sell it get some good money from it buy a fox with a big block already in it and profit, I see big block or roller foxes on cl or ebay for cheap, I guess my personal opinion would be not to mess up a perfectly fine car and put something in it that will cost more and require more time than most likely anticipated, Just my opinion but I would rather have a properly done big block notch or lx hatch than a new edge car that will require some crazyness salvage title cars are not worth shit.....this is what lead him to this..i told him to drop a navi motor in it and spray it my opinion dont matter to him, or yours for that matter. its what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 All im saying is plan accordingly as in quite a few hundred dollars more than originally planned for it and yes fox and you car as similar but not the "same" I have a 97 gt and an 88 gt and they are really by no means the "same" im not trying to argue with you I like your car I think its one of the nicest looking GT's on the board just wondering what inspired you to go big block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 All im saying is plan accordingly as in quite a few hundred dollars more than originally planned for it and yes fox and you car as similar but not the "same" I have a 97 gt and an 88 gt and they are really by no means the "same" im not trying to argue with you I like your car I think its one of the nicest looking GT's on the board just wondering what inspired you to go big block... sn 95 chassis give more room for the BB. and yes cut the tops of the cars off, and they are rather much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 460ci 9.5 to 1 motor making over 500 ft in very mild form. and even at 800 plus hp he dont have to worry about his 2 bolt block looking like a watermelon at a galiger(sp) show. salvage title cars are not worth shit. this is what inspired me to do it...and yes, rob did suggest a 5.4 4v from a navigator, but i want to do this project...dont care much what people think...everyone here says it cant be done, so when its done it will be that much cooler...and yes i realize how much its going to cost, ive priced out pretty much every single part with rob and me and him have spent hours working on details of this and everything it is going to take... and if they werent the same, why do chassis and suspension parts from a 79 fit onto an 04? im going to need a new k member, which im getting from ICEMAN from a 95gt, and im going to need BBF motor mounts from jegs for $60, and then the motor will be in the car, i will of course need more parts such as headers an oil pan, the top end of the engine etc etc, but it should go right in once i have parts mod please lock this thread, nobody has any words of encouragement, and i think everyone has had their say of how bad of an idea it is, so ide say its time to lock it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 remember the ones i showed you on the forum.....they did it easyer then a fox body swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Once again im not arguing, First off I didnt know the car had a salvage title, Its not just you some guy in Tech Help posted that he wanted to convert his 86 Gt to carb and most everyone was like like uh why would you do that, Also I know how easy it is to make a big block make power In case anyone for got I have the best of the best big block in my garage buick 455 FTW, Good luck with the swap man I just wanted a few questions answered, I never said it cant be done there are plenty of 94-04 big block cars the guy up the street from me has one never talked to the guy but maybe if your nice we can go over there and you can take a look at it haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 remember the ones i showed you on the forum.....they did it easyer then a fox body swap. theres more than enough room....my engine bay is huge...im not worried about how many people say it cant be done, because its been done before and i did research...its not like i said i want to drop a v12 motor into a smart car **edit typed back instead of bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 theres more than enough room....my engine back is huge...im not worried about how many people say it cant be done, because its been done before and i did research...its not like i said i want to drop a v12 motor into a smart car hahaha V12 Smart car FTMFW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 .its not like i said i want to drop a v12 motor into a smart car ummmm interesting.. damn it stop giveing me ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 ummmm interesting.. damn it stop giveing me ideas lol you would have to sit on the roof to drive it, the engine would take up the whole car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 lol you would have to sit on the roof to drive it, the engine would take up the whole car sun roof FTW rain bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Rob I got an idea for you get your car back in your garage, finish it and drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Rob I got an idea for you get your car back in your garage, finish it and drive it give me the moneys...please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 and yes i realize how much its going to cost, ive priced out pretty much every single part with rob and me and him have spent hours working on details of this and everything it is going to take... mod please lock this thread, nobody has any words of encouragement, and i think everyone has had their say of how bad of an idea it is, so ide say its time to lock it up you posted a thread on a public forum, and people are commenting appropriately trying to give you advice--don't complain. no reason to lock anything. just add at least 20% to the cost you've calculated. unexpected costs will come up no matter how well you thing you've planned things. good luck, i'll still be posting here in 5 years when you're ready to fire it up for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 you posted a thread on a public forum, and people are commenting appropriately trying to give you advice--don't complain. no reason to lock anything. just add at least 20% to the cost you've calculated. unexpected costs will come up no matter how well you thing you've planned things. good luck, i'll still be posting here in 5 years when you're ready to fire it up for the first time. i just dont see a point in bringing back a thread where everyone has already had their say of shit talking...nobody wants me to do it and nobody thinks i can, thats great! i dont give a fuck what you think kirk, or anybody else...and i cant wait until next year when i post a video of firing it up the first time to shove in your face...if you dont have anything postiive to say, then maybe you should stop posting...i already read that you think its a bad idea pages ago when you first posted, put hearing it the second time has COMPLETELY changed my view on the whole project! thank you so much for saving me so much time and money kirk, what would i ever do without you oh and even if i add another 20% to my total costs, it will STILL be finished next year at some point...kthanksbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 fuck that any pic's of any progress? I want to see build pic's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 not yet, i have a longblock and a short block and a tranny...short block is down to the bare block and its going to be getting machined, painted, new bearings, and rings, and then going back together by the end of the year...picking up a k member sometime next week from iceman...got my next thousand dollar check coming in the beginning of january and with that ill be ordering my oil pan and getting the cam and most likely heads to get the motor back together....so by sometime in january im hoping to have 75% of the motor completely back together...the funding is all there, just have to wait till early jan for my next check...got about $400 ill be spending before the end of the year on the motor, but christmas is here so ive got more expenses to take care of with the gf too...i make great money compared to the little amount of bills i have, so im not too concerned about funding the project...it will be done by next year, hoping for next summer, but it may turn out to be next fall or winter...we will see...no pics of the block torn down because its all at robs house and im at home heres the only pic i have for you, and its just the motor when we bought it...not using this block, probably wont even use much of it, but i have it for parts if i end up needing anything out of it...the other motor is on the stand http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/SaleenSS90/1030081718.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I think it'll be a cool project when you get it done. Projects like that aren't easy, hence why a lot of people would puss out. If and when you get it done, and it turns out well everyone will shut up. I for one hope you do accomplish it, and wish you the best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I think it'll be a cool project when you get it done. Projects like that aren't easy, hence why a lot of people would puss out. If and when you get it done, and it turns out well everyone will shut up. I for one hope you do accomplish it, and wish you the best of luck. thanks scott...we will see how it goes...unloaded my tuner today so that money will be the boost i need to get a little more progress by the end of the year on this motor... i want the bottom end put back together before the end of the year... and it wont be an easy project, but it wont be any harder than a 460 foxbody, and theres plenty of those out there so it is doable for a decent amount oh and people wont shut up once its done, they will just say i ruined the car, or that its not done cleanly, or that i shoulda stayed FI, etc etc...people will always find a reason to shit on a project that is out of the norm, but im used to it by now and dont really care what anyone thinks of it because its my car and not theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 You know I may just put a 5.3 truck engine in my car, I could care less what people think about it. I'll still blow people's doors off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 You know I may just put a 5.3 truck engine in my car, I could care less what people think about it. I'll still blow people's doors off. why a 5.3 truck motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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