Guest Eye_of_the_Beholder Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Here your Occupation is a Real Estate Investor... And you put a deposit(well your wife did) on a house? And you sign a document without reading it. And you change youre mind knowing most deposits are none refundable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 My wife's words (after only reading your first post in this thread that I copied and emailed her): "Yes, they are probably never going to see that money again. Receipt or no receipt, fine print or no fine print, since they gave them cash the chance that they will ever get it back is slim, especially because it has probably already been spent. Since the people aren't willingly returning it then that only leaves legal recourse which will cost every bit of that $2500 so they would end up losing even more. They might want to try a demand letter from an attorney. Sometimes having something come from an attorney might scare the people enough in to a full or partial refund if they are generally honest people who just made a bad decision. Usually an attorney would do this at their hourly rate and it wouldn't take more than an hour to complete. If things move to a negotiation then that may add more time on." Sorry that free legal advice was not better news. It sounds to me that if these people are bold enough to tell you to go fuck off after they took $2500 from you, an attorney's letter isn't going to scare them. However, you never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 It does sound like a planned scam so you never know, there could be a suit against them or other complaints that will help you out in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 http://everything2.com/?node_id=1310821 I would make gallons of this and insure that they paid the price for weeks. You're a good guy and I know it's not your style, but keep that link handy just in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimpsy1647545505 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 LoL, thanks for the link Tim. And I'm not actually a real estate investor. . . I put that there as a joke. But like I said. . regardless of everything and how it went down. I'm probably gonna swing by their home on Saturday when they get back and see how that goes. Cross ya fingers for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Good luck, I like the state trooper with car intimidation idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsn2o281 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 If nothing else, we could all take turns leaving a flaming bag of shit on their door every night, or other childish pranks such as removing the valve stems from their vehicles. Just small, very annoying, non damaging pranks. But yea, thats fucked up. hopefully all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 http://everything2.com/?node_id=1310821 I would make gallons of this and insure that they paid the price for weeks. You're a good guy and I know it's not your style, but keep that link handy just in case My vote is to use Tim's link and possibly pay a visit to the house that you just put 2500$ down on to keep it off the market. Just an idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Man, tough situation. I wouldn't let $250 slide, let alone $2500. Absolutely make this couple's life a living Hell. I can not stand people verbally saying one thing and then screwing people in writing. I have kept deposits on cars that buyers did not follow through on. But, it was repeated multiple time verbally and in writing with a witness. I like the next step of showing up at their house with a Statey. But, as said before, someone who has the balls to take your 2500 after saying they would not probably would just be jackasses to your father as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 i can haz money too?? is the house party still a go? theyre not going to be back for 2 more days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 hire me.....i will be 700 yards away and all they will hear is 651 grains death coming their way.........you know what i mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 burn down their house. problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Take to small claims, it will only cost you 65 dollars if you lose. Ususally a unreasonable contract will not hold up in court, even if you signed them. If you want to consult a lawyer, there are free programs that are ran by the government that can help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1647545497 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'm late reading this, and obviously late posting. But damn, and put emphasis on the damn when your reading this. Thats a pro your dealing with. I mean i got scammed out of 10 dollars buy a fast talking drunk guy, but to get taken for 2500... clean...in your face... nothing you can do... ill turn his pool into jello for $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Just some info incase you're bored: Current owner of the house: KIDD WILLIAM C & MAYS KELLY N SURV 2648 HARDWOOD AVE LANCASTER OH 43130 Their listed address: William C Kidd Jr & Kelly N Kidd 7910 Brookfield Pl Canal Winchester, OH 43110-9052 Owner of the big ass house, people you say scammed you: WATTS JEFFREY & MONICA SURV 7260 BASIL WESTERN RD CANAL WINCHESTER OH 43110 LinkedIn info, probably match: Jeff Watts Sales Executive at SCS and Owner, Radius-Solutions Columbus, Ohio Area Industry Computer Hardware http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/a82/a39 I'm sure I'll have more for you soon, but I'd be verifying who actually owns the home in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Jeffrey Watt's home number: (614) 834-3260 Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=7260+Basil+Western+Rd,+Canal+Winchester,+OH+43110 Flight instruction link: http://www.pilot-flight-instruction.com/profile.370244.html His business info: Jeff Watts Enterprises Address: 7260 Basil Western Rd, Canal Winchester, OH 43110-8914 Location Type: Single Location Est. Annual Sales: $52,000 Est. # of Employees: 1 Est. Empl. at Loc.: 1 Year Started: 2005 SIC #Code: 7389 Contact's Name: Jeff Watts Contact's Title: Chief Executive Officer NAICS: All Other Business Support Services (614) 834-3261 Business Services in Canal Winchester, OH Another company of his: HYVEE INC HYVEE INC is in the Services, N.E.C. industry in CANAL WINCHESTER, OH. This company currently has approximately 1 to 5 employees and annual sales of Under $500,000. 7260 BASIL WESTERN RD CANAL WINCHESTER, OH 43110 Location Type: Branch Industry: Services, N.E.C. Ownership: Private Sales Range: Under $500,000 Employees: 1 to 5 LPA listing? LPA, LITTLE P 7260 BASIL WESTERN RD, CANAL WINCHESTER, OH 43110 Yet another company: WE-SELL-PROPERTIES-QUICK.COM Monica L. Watts (jeff1@insight.rr.com) 7260 Basil Western Road Canal Winchester, OH 43110 US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 His wife's contact info, including cell phone: Monica Watts E & J Properties P.O. Box 732 Canal Winchester, OH 43110 Email: monica1@insight.rr.com Website: http://www.we-buy-homes-quick.com Mobile: 614-530-7273 Fax: 614-834-3262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Alright, I'm done for the night. If I get bored tomorrow I'll find you more information. I accept payment in the form of beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Start calling, prank calls at night randomly from random people for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 DAMN! That's a lot of info on those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 You da man CASPER. Thats a helluva good deed you did for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs.cos Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I would SERIOUSLY reconsider editing that information and sending it in a PM. Public info or not, posting stuff like that up, could get have bad effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimpsy1647545505 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 yes casper!! =) Monica & Jeffrey Watts . . . they claimed to have owned the house on hardwood. And they definitely live at the basil western address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost face Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 This is a freaking scam... 1st sign is they are going on vacation and trying to sell a house and need $2500 deposit? w/o even looking into details. "would you be willing to put down a deposit of 2500 for us to take it off the market and hold it for you?" i think that is what you should focus on if you take it to small claims court. Have documented evidences, i.e. photos of for sale signs at the location,/ ads w/ for sale sign after you have gave them the money, etc.. Also do a credit check on your selves to make sure they "Verified" your credit info, if they didn't they lied to you. They manipulated words and persuaded your wife(more vulnerable figure of two i'm assuming) with the intent of taking a deposit and never trying to sell the house On the side note, prank calling idea is a bad idea, it would potentially make it harder for him to get a hold of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 for a small fee i'll throw a brick through thier fron window and any car windows in the driveway, i hate evildoers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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