zeitgeist57 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Talk to Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC)... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor_e_mails_1 Scroll down for email exchanges, and no fapping whilst reading this, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro1647545510 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Talk to Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC)... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor_e_mails_1 Scroll down for email exchanges, and no fapping whilst reading this, please. Interesting. I wonder if these were sent from his personal email account or from a state owned/work email address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Interesting. I wonder if these were sent from his personal email account or from a state owned/work email address. Plus One. -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Most likely the state owned account. If you want juicy you should read the former mayor of Detroit's text messages. They were allowed to be released because they were sent between phones that were paid for by the city. Don't conduct personal 'business' on government property if you want to keep it private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro1647545510 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Most likely the state owned account. If you want juicy you should read the former mayor of Detroit's text messages. They were allowed to be released because they were sent between phones that were paid for by the city. Don't conduct personal 'business' on government property if you want to keep it private. I read some of the detroit mayor text exchanges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I firmly believe that nothing we type on a computer is private anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro1647545510 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I firmly believe that nothing we type on a computer is private anymore. I can drink to that. I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I can drink to that. I agree with you. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUGT Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 What's the over/under in days till the first photo pops up? I'm saying 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I firmly believe that nothing we type on a computer is private anymore. Anything we do on a computer can be private. Just don't connect it to teh interwebz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Anything we do on a computer can be private. Just don't connect it to teh interwebz. or turn it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I firmly believe that nothing we type on a computer is private anymore. It's not. Anything we do on a computer can be private. Just don't connect it to teh interwebz. False. Extraordinarily false, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Anything we do on a computer can be private. Just don't connect it to teh interwebz. I can't begin to tell you how much information I've retrieved off old PC's that have come into my possession. I bought an old Apple Power PC circa 1994 at a garage sale last year and retrieved all kinds of personal data. The owner has now idea what he and his family left on there. Same with the two used notebooks I bought recently. I was told they were wiped too EDIT: Chris beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Advanced blowfish for the win... or any other encryption program really. I have a plugin for blowfish on irc. Connect to irc with a BNC (connect to irc through another computer) then private message someone using the plugin = encrypted text. The plain text sent over the internet is nothing but random characters and letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Advanced blowfish for the win... or any other encryption program really. I have a plugin for blowfish on irc. Connect to irc with a BNC (connect to irc through another computer) then private message someone using the plugin = encrypted text. The plain text sent over the internet is nothing but random characters and letters. Encryption isn't the savior of privacy. Don't forget, it has to be decrypted at some point on both sides to be usable. At either point there are myriad ways it can be intercepted, exploited, and manipulated. When you send your encrypted data to the other party, can you guarantee that it's really the other party and a not an impostor? Can you also guarantee that the other party hasn't been compromised, or that they're not going to use your data for whatever means they see fit without your knowledge or consent? Of course you can't. There is no way to guarantee your privacy on a computer. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Encryption isn't the savior of privacy. Don't forget, it has to be decrypted at some point on both sides to be usable. At either point there are myriad ways it can be intercepted, exploited, and manipulated. When you send your encrypted data to the other party, can you guarantee that it's really the other party and a not an impostor? Can you also guarantee that the other party hasn't been compromised, or that they're not going to use your data for whatever means they see fit without your knowledge or consent? Of course you can't. There is no way to guarantee your privacy on a computer. Period. If I call the sender over the phone and tell him to login to irc I can guarantee he is receiving my message. This is planned out before hand. I don't send encrypted messages to just anyone. So yes I can know before hand the data will be safe with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 That guy writes one pimpin' email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Back on topic FOX NEWS strikes again. Look Mark Sanford is a democrat. http://mediamatters.org/blog/200906240026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtschulze Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Dude can write some $hit though. Either way....the media is all over it and as usual will destroy everyone's life in the process of "fair and unbalanced" reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main3s Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Lastly I also suspect I feel a little vulnerable because this is ground I have never certainly never covered before - so if you have pearls of wisdom on how we figure all this out please let me know... In the meantime please sleep soundly knowing that despite the best efforts of my head my heart cries out for you, your voice, your body, the touch of your lips, the touch of your finger tips and an even deeper connection to your soul." Ummm is it really that hard. Either you're going to sneek around on your wife and family or you're going to break it off then hook up with your new woman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main3s Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I firmly believe that nothing we type on a computer is private anymore. NEO.... is this you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 If I call the sender over the phone and tell him to login to irc I can guarantee he is receiving my message. This is planned out before hand. I don't send encrypted messages to just anyone. So yes I can know before hand the data will be safe with them. Sure, but can you guarantee the recipient computer/network/etc. isn't and will never be compromised? And again, can you guarantee the recipient intentions? What is the individual going to do with your data after they're done with it, can you guarantee data-at-rest protection? What about five years from now? Now think beyond just your recipient - who else might have access to the hardware? It's impossible to guarantee information security 100%. Impossible. I haven't even touched on sophisticated man-in-the-middle vectors. This is the problem with staking faith in encryption, it leads to a false sense of security. Once the data is out of your hands you really, truly have no idea. You can have faith and trust, but all faith and trust do is help you sleep at night until whatever it is you're trying to protect is compromised. Information security practitioners wear a lot of tinfoil, but for good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 False. Extraordinarily false, actually. I'm not talking about someone coming into possession of one of your hard drives. I can't begin to tell you how much information I've retrieved off old PC's that have come into my possession. I bought an old Apple Power PC circa 1994 at a garage sale last year and retrieved all kinds of personal data. The owner has now idea what he and his family left on there. Same with the two used notebooks I bought recently. I was told they were wiped too I'm not talking about someone coming into possession of one of your hard drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Sure, but can you guarantee the recipient computer/network/etc. isn't and will never be compromised? And again, can you guarantee the recipient intentions? What is the individual going to do with your data after they're done with it, can you guarantee data-at-rest protection? What about five years from now? Now think beyond just your recipient - who else might have access to the hardware? It's impossible to guarantee information security 100%. Impossible. I haven't even touched on sophisticated man-in-the-middle vectors. This is the problem with staking faith in encryption, it leads to a false sense of security. Once the data is out of your hands you really, truly have no idea. You can have faith and trust, but all faith and trust do is help you sleep at night until whatever it is you're trying to protect is compromised. Information security practitioners wear a lot of tinfoil, but for good reason. With 256bit encryption it would be difficult to decode without my key. It isn't impossible but it would take time. Even so the things I send encrypted over IRC are still not something that is crazy data sensitive. I am not that stupid. If it is something crazy important I will tell the person face to face and that would be the end of it. For what I use it for I don't really care if someone decodes it. It just makes it look like I am typing jibberish to anyone that happens to be packet sniffing either my network or the one my shell account is on (highly doubtful). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'm with you. Not berating, just debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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