Mr. Jones Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I don't think I'd like fifty NASA computers telling me how to drive. Thank god none of them listed interfere with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I also like shifting my own gears, and will never have it any other way no matter how close some pseudo-automatic claims to get to a real manual.. even if it is .1 seconds faster or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I also like shifting my own gears, and will never have it any other way no matter how close some pseudo-automatic claims to get to a real manual.. even if it is .1 seconds faster or whatever. That's you.. Dover wants to go fast.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Then I would say GTR over any of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 C7 Z would be nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 997TT then GTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Monte SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I need to take a ride/test drive everything still but I am leaning towards a GTR at this point. I'm in no real rush to purchase anything but am fighting the excitement of a fun car again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Some quick thoughts on a few of them, with an emphasis on your request for pros/cons: GTR Pros: Stupid fast, instant street-racing cred upon purchase, can immediately start calling out everyone from roll or dig, easily modified, can make ridiculous power/numbers/gains, not as expensive as a Gallardo, about as expensive or less so than the 997TT Cons: More expensive than a C6Z or the CTS-V, it's an automatic (which is a con from the "I'm a real driver and I like to shift shit" audience; auto could be perceived a pro from various other angles), is (at least to me) not as aesthetically pleasing as a 997TT or a Gallardo Gallardo Pros: Most exotic of the bunch, most unique, will get the most looks, will get you laid by girls more often (whereas GT-R will get you laid by fanbois more often), arguably the most aesthetically pleasing of the bunch, uber fast, can be made to be light-speed fast and essentially untouchable on the street with the right package (read: see UGR, not CTD) Cons: Expensive as fuck for just about everything, right? Also, what about those Lambo elitists that will say you bought an entry-level Lambo? Not that I'd care, or most people would care, but there's always that one elitist lurking around, waiting to pounce on whatever insecurity you might have. 997TT Pros: Aesthetically pleasing (perhaps even better looking than the Gallardo), proven platform, relatively reliable, not as expensive as the Gallardo (or so I would imagine), will get plenty of looks, uniformly well-received by both chicks and car guys, has good mod potential, good resale value Cons: Expensive because, well, it's a Porsche. Less unique than a Gallardo, maybe even less unique than a GT-R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Reading John's post above makes me realize: Most would agree the GTR is the platform to decimate all, but I can't get over how vanilla the styling is. Considering how stunning some of the other Nissan/Infiniti models are (even the new Murano:lolguy:) I hope to see sexier styling in the next evolution of the GTR. I respect that the GTR evolved from the square-ish R-series Nissan Skylines back in the 80s/90s, so at least it remembers where it evolved from. I'm firmly in the manual transmission crowd, because I can go faster than all of you at 3,500 feet above the racetrack for a lot less. :gabe: For me, the budget choice would be a 556hp supercharged CTS-V with the six-speed and panoramic glass roof. Aftermarket has a good number in the $40k range. - If you want to win races, get a GTR - If money's not a concern, get a GTR or Gallardo and throw as much of your leftover budget to aftermarket mods. - If you want a fast car to enjoy, I'd get the 997TT - If you want to do the best you can on a "budget" (relatively speaking in this group), get an '09+ CTS-V. There's a $50k+ used market value difference in those three picks. (WAAAY more if you include the Gallardo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I did a lot of homework on Gallardo's when I had a hard-on for them a couple years ago. They're basically and Audi and highly reliable and cheap to maintain in relation to the cost of the car. Start breaking stuff and putting out 1000hp plus and that rule goes out the window but if you buy one with bolt-ons and can turn a wrench yourself ownership costs won't be that bad. Maybe my perception is skewed cause I do all my own work and don't pay labor costs but this is how I see it. The expensive part is if you get an e-gear car the computer eats the clutch for you. It's $5-7k job and most e-gear cars need a clutch by the time they get to 30k miles. I think it was '06 cars they started being able to tell via onboard diagnostics how much life was left in the clutch. All the more reason to find an early car with true 6-speed. my .02 on the Gallardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I did a lot of homework on Gallardo's when I had a hard-on for them a couple years ago. They're basically and Audi and highly reliable and cheap to maintain in relation to the cost of the car. Start breaking stuff and putting out 1000hp plus and that rule goes out the window but if you buy one with bolt-ons and can turn a wrench yourself ownership costs won't be that bad. Maybe my perception is skewed cause I do all my own work and don't pay labor costs but this is how I see it. The expensive part is if you get an e-gear car the computer eats the clutch for you. It's $5-7k job and most e-gear cars need a clutch by the time they get to 30k miles. I think it was '06 cars they started being able to tell via onboard diagnostics how much life was left in the clutch. All the more reason to find an early car with true 6-speed. my .02 on the Gallardo ^This. I did lots of reading last year when I was trying to find "my next car". You can do a check on E-Gear and see the life remaining in percent IIRC. Even the 6MT's aren't notoriously strong and will need replacing far before most cars would. (I tend to beat the crap out of cars vs just tooling around). Over-all, VERY reliable cars though, and brakes are "cheap" compared to almost any other exotic (Audi Bin Parts). And, for the money spent (I know this again) they aren't terribly fast compared to other options. One day I'll be over "going fast" and get a nice cruiser, I just don't think that time is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Oh CR, now Lamborghini Gallardos are considered "not terribly fast". Tough crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Whats your price range with mods? What kind of racing do you want to do? tt z28 gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Oh CR, now Lamborghini Gallardos are considered "not terribly fast". Tough crowd. Relatively speaking old man... For the money spent, a basic bolt on GTR will destroy a Gallardo with ease. Bolt on's for the Gallardo don't net nearly as much, and the car costs way more to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Manual Gallardo Spyder. Easier to flip off the haters. I love the GTR, I love the 997TT, I love the C6Z. But those are cars for people who weigh pros and cons and think about ROI. The Gallardo is a car for the Clarksons of the world who don't believe "delicate" and "right foot" belong in the same sentence. Buy the Gallardo and let everyone tell you how much faster a GTR would be right before they get into their clapped out 240SX. Make sure it's bright orange or neon green or something offensively awesome. Get matching color wheels. Wear a shirt that says "What Recession?" on it. Embrace the hate. Be one with it. Feed on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Manual Gallardo Spyder. Easier to flip off the haters. Buy the Gallardo and let everyone tell you how much faster a GTR would be right before they get into their clapped out 240SX. Make sure it's bright orange or neon green or something offensively awesome. Get matching color wheels. Wear a shirt that says "What Recession?" on it. Embrace the hate. Be one with it. Feed on it. I'm 100% with this :fuckyeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 2013-2014 GT500? 662hp off the showroom floor.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Talking to Chad, he said that his GTR is a much better car than the Gallardo. And would be cheaper to maintain down the road as well. But the Lambo is sexy as hell. But lets be honest... "what do you think bitches are gonna do when you throw Porsche keys on the table" -Mike Dover circa 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 SRSLY This would be my Opinion: 1. GTR 2. 997 3. c7z 4. Gallardo 5. Miata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 didn't the z28 beat up on the GTR recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 didn't the z28 beat up on the GTR recently? http://i.imgur.com/GElJ6aA.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 didn't the z28 beat up on the GTR recently? :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller11386 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Realistically a ugr tt gallardo is the machine to have. Gtr is very meh imo. They can be stupid fast though C7z has a lot of promise! But c6z is an older gen. I'd steer away unless you plan to build something serious. I would not but a c7 with direct injection if u want something crazy fast. If you want a ttg, look at one used. They are surprisingly fairly avaliable. They even list some on ugrs site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 At those price points I would look for fun factor over technical numbers.. which I think a C6Z or (not on the list) Roush Mustang would fall into play. 2013-2014 GT500? 662hp off the showroom floor.. Did you notice that you are the only one talking about Mustangs in a thread that they clearly don't belong in? J/K, I really dig the new stangs but don't see them in the same class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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