InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Is anyone checking prices on Lightnings?There's a red CRrrah (as Rudy Ray Moore would say) near me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 From what I've read... there isn't just a couple slight difference between the Rs and CRsThe CRs has a taller gear, for quicker accel, but lower top speedBars are differentStreetfighter vs. full fairingBut I thought everything else was equal. The engine and weight are exactly the same - it's not a 'detuned' version of the 1125 mill, it's the SAME 146hp powerplant.Is there some other difference I'm missing? I bet the CR is cheaper to insure too, because it's not an 'R' bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 From what I've read... there isn't just a couple slight difference between the Rs and CRsThe CRs has a taller gear, for quicker accel, but lower top speedBars are differentStreetfighter vs. full fairingBut I thought everything else was equal. The engine and weight are exactly the same - it's not a 'detuned' version of the 1125 mill, it's the SAME 146hp powerplant.Is there some other difference I'm missing? I bet the CR is cheaper to insure too, because it's not an 'R' bike. That is most of it. The CR also has a different swingarm and uses a different belt. The motor/airbox/ehaust/ECM/suspension is the same as the R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Different belt for the different "sprocket" (more teeth)... the swingarm difference is interesting though, didn't know about that... just a length thing? (I suppose that would affect the belt too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 This compares the two bikes:http://www.buell.com/en_us/tools/compare-bikes/compare.asp?Bike1=1125R&Bike2=1125CR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Different belt for the different "sprocket" (more teeth)... the swingarm difference is interesting though, didn't know about that... just a length thing? (I suppose that would affect the belt too)The difference in swingarm lenght is minor (3/8"or so), but it's a different part number. People have changed from CR to R gearing and vice versa. To do that you actually need to change belt & swingarm. Unlike chain drive, the rear axle is fixed as the belt tension needs to be precise. If you wind up getting one, I suspect you'll prefer the belt over chain drive (unless you want to change gearing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) I did that the other day, but didn't see anything beyond what I noted previously - I guess I should've figured that the swingarm was different given the ever-so-slightly different dimensions.I like the higher ground clearance of the CR, and I'm sure the MPG hit is due to the taller rear. I don't like that it's an inch WIDER than the 'R', but all the other specs are less than an inch one way or the other.I like that the 'R' has much more lighting wattage. I'm a huge fan of having a headlight that illuminates things like the freakin' sun, but that wouldn't deter me from getting a CR.Now, find me that same chart, but put my SV and 1st Gen Hayabusa into it too. The difference in swingarm lenght is minor (3/8"or so), but it's a different part number.That's the kind of detail I wanted to know... different part number. I'm a huge fan of the belt drive, since I haven't changed sprockets on my other two bikes and probably won't, I don't think that'll be an issue. Edited October 20, 2009 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If someone was interested in my City X, I would prolly move on a new CR. I just can't justify a 4th bike in the garage even with the huge discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 How often do you ride that XB9? What kind of roads do you take it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 And more importantly, do you take it off any sweet jumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 How often do you ride that XB9? What kind of roads do you take it on?I put about 5k on it this year (+ another 5k between the F4i and the 919). Almost all my riding is SE OH and WV. I don't commute on bikes, I work from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 ..and how is she in bed?Oh..wait ...my bad. Not that kind of party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 And more importantly, do you take it off any sweet jumps?Win!Nope, but on my 2003 XB9S (sold) I got about 5 feet of air once, unintentionally. Somehow it stayed on 2 wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 ..trying to decide if the Thunderstorm is worth it...I just can't bring myself to consider the 1125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I just can't bring myself to consider the 1125.WTF are you smokin!? Thats the only one that IS worth it. Thunderstorm......pppffffbbbttt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 ..trying to decide if the Thunderstorm is worth it...I just can't bring myself to consider the 1125.Compared to the ZX10, you would be under-whelmed by the XB mill. But it has a fat torque curve and puts a lot of useable power to the pavement. For aggressive corner carving it does well....track not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yeah...I know...I know. But the aesthetics of the 1125 kill any desire to throw it around a corner.Plus, I already have my balls to the wall ride. If I got one, I'd want something fun for the street..where I can feel some power in the low end RPM range. I don't need the ability to do 150+ on the street. Something smaller..more comfortable (!!!!!)..and brand new at a used price is looking good. If the 1125 had the Firebolt styling w/ the Rotax, I'd be selling Kev's wife to pay for it yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Compared to the ZX10, you would be under-whelmed by the XB mill. But it has a fat torque curve and puts a lot of useable power to the pavement. For aggressive corner carving it does well....track not so much.This is exactly what I was typing!!I like my ZX10, but an all day session of corner carving leaves my ass and legs sore. Plus the stance puts way too much pressure on my broken wrists. I sat on the XB12Ss yesterday, and I could have fallen asleep on the seat. The XB12Scg was a little less comfy, but still leaps and bounds over the ZX10.So I'm thinking of retiring the ZX10 to track duty, and everything else on the XB12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Are any of you other pussies going to get a buell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Money just doesn't fall out of MY girlfriends vagina... Besides, all your leads dried up, so I'm still chasing deals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) I've done 2,000+ miles in 4 days several times on an XB9S, with no real soreness to speak of. It's a great mix of handling and comfort. It had 34k on it when I sold it, and I never had to turn a wrench. Edited October 20, 2009 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Tony riding his bike can hang with the front of any group. I had my doubts about that bikes capabilities but it can carve a corner better than most riders can so in that department no worries. The motor not so much but it's no wall flower. Tony isn't going to be able to say that without sounding like he is tooting his own horn but I enjoy riding with him and that bike doesn't but him at a disadvantage at least comparing it to a 600. I would question its resale value and how you like riding a twin. Ask Justin if you can ride the SV, twins aren't for everyone. Buying a Hyundai is cheaper than buying a Honda up front but overall cost of ownership is more when you factor trade in value. Your legs should be sore after an all day session of corner carving regardless of which bike you're riding, your ass and wrists are another story. DO NOT use your ZX10 for a track bike you will learn very little with it and leave yourself open for much carnage to it and yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Better ride the SV before I winterize it... the 'busa is up for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Another point I wanted to add is Honda has a $2,500 rebate right now on their 1ks. I know it doesn't bring the price down to $5k but it's not a bad deal. Kawasaki has $500 now on their 1ks and winter isn't over yet. (Good deals might be coming around Feburary.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've already done a track day on the 10. So I know what I'm in store for. The carnage only comes into play when the brain decides to do something stupid. That being said, I swapped bikes (A Gixxer....shh don't tell anyone) and I could tell a big difference in handling. The Kaw had the power over the Gixxer...but didn't seem to translate it to the pavement as well as the Gixxer did with less power.I understand your 'concern' about learning on the 10...but if I want to go learn me some more, I'll take the XB (assuming I were to buy one).My legs aren't sore from riding UP...my legs are sore from the god awful seat that's on the bike and the angle it's on. I'm pretty sure I know the difference. I know for a fact that the 12Ss won't stab me in places like the ZX10 does. Matter of fact, I just LEFT LE HD to see if they had it in red...and tried the seat out again. Remind me never to go into an HD shop with gear and a backpack on. Fucking morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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