Uncle Punk Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I started this conversation in another thread and regret doing it now because I don’t think R.I.P. threads should be a discussion thread that a lot of them turn into. http://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?t=89272 What is the point to a R.I.P. thread? Is it to be respectful and acknowledge the rider or are they to be used to decide who was at fault or if they should have died because they weren’t taking all the necessary precautions? I find in no more relevant if a rider was wearing gear, has a valid license, plates or current insurance. Riding is inherently dangerous, a R.I.P thread doesn't need to be dissected into each individual’s level of acceptable risk to decide if the death is valid or not. These people don't deserve to die just because they don't have others same values for risk assessment. The folks on the car forums would think that just riding no matter what precautions you take make you a fool to take such chances with your life, maybe they are right. The track only guys have decided that the street is not where they want to ride; do they deserve to die on the track after taking the entire street riding risk out of their activities? If someone is current with their tags, license, insurance, wear all the proper gear, ride obeying all traffic laws and still die is that loss more tragic? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think there is some value in a reminder that you take a chance everytime you swing a leg over the seat whether gear/no gear or track/street. As a younger rider, I probabably needed that reminder more often then I do now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I personally think the fallen rider forum is a waste. All its being used for is to post about a crash someone saw on the news...who cares. Kinda the same as all the FB crap about Whitney, you didn't know her and never met her so why are you mourning for her? Same here you don't know the rider, never met the rider so why post about it? Who cares if he rides that doesn't make him family or friend. I don't post or mourn for everyone killed in a Dodge Ram just because I drive one. If you know the rider or he is a member here fine post it. Why post about every crash on the news? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 But then again I'm a heartless dick so what do I know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I dont see any harm about the fallen rider section, but I dont frequent it much at all -- personally, I dont want to read about all the sad reminders of how deadly bikes can be......but I do love riding so if I die doing such, I'll die much happier than bleeding out on a shitter from bursting huge hemorrhoids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I <3, <3-less dicks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I feel if we can learn something from there mistake (or some one elses) its worth reading. Its also about paying respects for our fellow riders. Post about celebrities don't belong in fallen riders thread. Edited February 21, 2012 by snot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I personally think the fallen rider forum is a waste. All its being used for is to post about a crash someone saw on the news...who cares. Kinda the same as all the FB crap about Whitney, you didn't know her and never met her so why are you mourning for her? Same here you don't know the rider, never met the rider so why post about it? Who cares if he rides that doesn't make him family or friend. I don't post or mourn for everyone killed in a Dodge Ram just because I drive one. If you know the rider or he is a member here fine post it. Why post about every crash on the news?ThisI <3, <3-less dicks.And this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I had a girl whose mom read the obituaries every day to be thankful of her being alive or something. I didn't understand it and thought it was just out of morbid curiosity etc. Also, this:I personally think the fallen rider forum is a waste. All its being used for is to post about a crash someone saw on the news...who cares. Kinda the same as all the FB crap about Whitney, you didn't know her and never met her so why are you mourning for her? Same here you don't know the rider, never met the rider so why post about it? Who cares if he rides that doesn't make him family or friend. I don't post or mourn for everyone killed in a Dodge Ram just because I drive one. If you know the rider or he is a member here fine post it. Why post about every crash on the news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 why the fuck is it that when ever you tell someone that you have a motorcycle they show you lots of picks of dead motorcyclists. shittygsxr quote from 2007.Unless they are on the forum I don't care. I know the dangers I accept them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 ^^^ quoting yourself; classy but so true. I think everyone gets the "Omg, I knew someone that died/crashed/got hurt on a motorcycle!" comment when they tell people they ride. I have crashed and now have people always tell me how I will again every time I tell them about motorcycles (regardless if I am going to be riding or not). Its amazing how prevalent motorcycles are, but how ignorant people are of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 If it's an OR member, remembrance and reminder is ok.If I wanted to know everytime someone died I'd read the obits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana 1863-1952not Sir Winston Churchill, he said:“A nation that forgets its past is doomed to repeat it.” In part not tragic, but just plain stupid. A Darwin award for those who care so little for themselves, that they would destroy the lives of others in doing so.Each of us see a little of ourselves in each of those events posted.Some of us care, some don't care, and some don't want to hear it.Feel free to self destruct. Try not to take others with you.These RIP postings bring out the offenders and the offended. Try not to be either one.It's not even the first accident of the year. There's been a couple already. This most recent one was just particularly irresponsible and particularly deadly. I lose interest quickly, in RIP postings. But I'm already old enough to know where the line between thrill and death is located. Edited February 22, 2012 by ReconRat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 "It is forever that we encounter the enduring pain of herpes" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I just don't feel right posting a RIP to a fallen rider that I personally never knew. I don't know...it's just weird to me to do it.I've never been someone that got emotional about a funeral even in my own family.It's not that I don't care. I just think of it as a natural part of life and it's not something to get upset over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 But I'm already old enough to know where the line between thrill and death is located.So does he now, rt 60 and McGlade school rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 So does he now, rt 60 and McGlade school rd The place will probably be haunted now, since you said that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrbrent Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm glad someone posted the wreck on 60 I know Luka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The place will probably be haunted now, since you said that...3rd fatality within 1/4 mile of that intersection in less than a year actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I guess I'm trying to understand what the point is for the R.I.P. threads or what they are about. Are they to be reverent and respectful or are they a starting point to discuss how many wrong choices everyone made that was involved. Most of the threads have half the folks posting "R.I.P." and the other half are wondering if they had a helmet on or not like it makes a difference. In my mind it doesn't make any difference at all. It sucks to die no matter the reason and I can see a reason to second guess any vehicle death so why do we have these types of threads? A news report about an accident is a good starting point for a discussion but do the folks who only have "R.I.P." to say think everyone else dissecting the merits of the actions or lifestyles choices of the deceased are being disrespectful? Every group ride I have been on people were doing dangerous things that might have led to their deaths but if that were to occur would any of them deserved it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 RIP to the woman murdered last month in Cleveland....I wonder if she was dressed like a slut though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't get the RIP thing either...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm with the majority here, unless its someone we know I don't get it. We all know there is a risk involved in what we do and that there are many fatalities every year with this. I usually stay out of them most of the time unless its to break out my judgemental heartless asshole side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05candygrand Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) RIP to the woman murdered last month in Cleveland....I wonder if she was dressed like a slut thoughIf she did dress like a slut, or drink, or cuss....FUCK HER! If not...oh wow...it was WAY too soon... RIP Edited February 22, 2012 by 05candygrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeefZah Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 RIP threads are devoid of any value whatsoever.Most of us don't know the rider involved, so we have no personal connection with them.Posting "RIP" or some little emoticon of a kneeling rider doesn't do shit for the family, friends, or anyone else attached to the situation.It's the internet version of those stupid stickers people put on cars: "RIP Joe Blow 1995-2010". I care about Joe Blow's demise almost as much as I care about your kid being an honor student.I do read the threads every so often just to get the details and locations of the crash, more for morbid curiosity than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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