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i been scourging the internet for some time for a lighter bike, but as always never knew exactly what i want just a general theme. This time was in double mind, a lighter bike with some off road prowess to experience some real adv rides vs a lighter bike which i can take to track to exp track days. After tons of reading was sure there was no one good answer. But after thinking a lot and realizing more and more when i see Dans ride reports etc, i am not made out for such ruthless manly man rides fighting bears off and sleeping on top of tree etc. I mean i struggled a lot of years to get here not to do these any more hehehe But some day i am gonna grow a pair again and jump into those. Thus choice was narrowed to lighter bike that i can push around with my puny little body strength and possibly load into a trailer. Plus reasonably comfortable for single long day rides. So SS bikes were out. I want to get to track days and experience and learn more stuff, at the same time extrapolate that to real world riding in streets where i will still be doing most miles. and this way i hope to bring in some balance to family and my personal vacation time by trailering bike around and if at all possible get one day of riding which definitely makes a big difference. And thus narrowed the results further. After all this wall of txt, final decision making process was as simple as forest gump.. just went to gap..rode a striple... went into my head database of "zillion bikes for sale at night".com .. remembered seeing a clean striple... texted him sunday ...today was my last off day for next 1 month almost... just went to see it....... My first challenge i put on myself was if i dont feel comfortable doing "trailering" stuff i wouldn't buy it. Went to uhaul to check it out, It turns out to be an easy walk in the park, and there by shattering all my hopes of walking away from this maddness. Next obstacle i put on my mind was, if its not clean as he described i am walking away ....went in ...just wanted to see if it was as clean as he said... coz the price was fair not a steal deal. Saw the guy, older gentlemen very professional..heated garage.. And it was cleeeean ... like @Al Z. Heimer care level. Looked better than some show room stuff i seen. Oil /Brake Fluids like clear water Didnt feel like beating up the guys price and effort he put into it. And ended up bringing it home. i guess i might as well just embrace who i am. Just a mad mad motoholic fuxer i guess lol ... Sad part is i was getting to know the feejer real well after around 5 k miles on it. Hopefully i get to keep both. I usually dont do more than one bike at a time. Second sad part is i kept myself away from track days due to the trailering woes and worries. Now i realize its not a big deal, i am going to be in big trouble soon. Especially with Nelson black top ready plus a mid ohio certificate in my pocket already ........ dddddayuuuum need to resist. First time using a trailer in my life/ like driving loading etc/ tie downs etc/ will be another month before i even get to ride it, i mean might not even get time to plate it the way schedule is looking like for next one month.

So I just sent the below to my State Rep. I suggest everyone else do the same. You are welcome to leave out the snark if you wish. Hello, I am following up on an email I sent you in early March requesting assistance in making a change to Ohio motorcycle law that would allow us to protect our hearing. I was one of many motorcyclists that contacted their Reps trying to get this antiquated law fixed. Thankfully, unlike you, Representative Wesley Goodman did not ignore their constituents and has drafted a Bill to fix this situation. He needs support and co-sponsors. Please contact him and do both. Jim Kennedy.

And hiking trails all the way to fontana!! There are some good trails around there. I'm excited already. I don't know what I'm going to do without the entertainment of waking up to Shawn swinging a fireplace shovel repeatedly as a mouse zigzags across the floor... guess I'll just manage with the clean rooms and functional appliances...

Where I live in Japan, everyday use is normal. I will get a car if necessary but since leaving in about a year, dont want to put money into a car unless I really want too I want to ride and its only me, no girlfriend so its cool I can use my family's car if I need to use a car.

Bet some redneck would trade you a motorcycle for that mulletmobile.

Countdown to blast off!!! ----------------------------------- Important stuff You are responsible for yourself. This is an "at your own risk" event. Motorcycling is dangerous. All roads are dangerous, but especially these. Be careful. Ohio Riders LLC and the owners of Ohio Riders LLC cannot be held liable for anything (like, but not limited to, traffic tickets, accidents, stupidity, death, etc). ----------------------------------- What is this? Ride your own ride. Enjoy the weekend. Be safe. This is not a competition or a race. This is just a good weekend away with friends new and old. It just happens to be a weekend for a bunch of us to meetup down there to have some fun. The weekend is up to you. When you come down, where you ride, who you ride with, where you eat, where you stay, etc is completely up to you. Nothing is officially organized. There are no set routes. There will be shindigs in the evenings involving a campfire for us to sit around and tell lies. ----------------------------------- Dates June 20-24, 2018 Yes, the dates changed. You can blame me if this causes any issues. My daughter's birthday lands on Thursday in 2018. ----------------------------------- Lodging We're changing it up for 2018. We've reserved all of Townsend Gateway Inn. That's 45 beds in total. Townsend Gateway Inn offers a lot of cool stuff for us. There's a conference room we can use for free, grills on the property, a pool, two fire pits (they even supply the wood for us), BBQ onsite, several restaurants nearby (including Trailside Steakhouse for those like me who were craving steak this last trip), wifi that actually works, cell phone reception, two miles from the entrance to Smokey Mountain National Park, etc. There are even a few gas stations and grocery/convenience stores nearby. It's only 45 minutes away from the dragon and (according to @Tonik) the roads are awesome. For those who like to head down to Georgia, it doesn't add much to the time/mileage. For those who want to dual sport, there are tons of gravel/dirt roads nearby. There are several others motels in Townsend if you'd like to stay somewhere else or if we sell out. Little River Bar BQ is across the street (suppose to be really good), as is River Rage Tubing for anyone who wants to go tubing. For those looking to camp, Ye Olde Mill Campground is across the street next to the tubing place, and several other campgrounds are just down the road. And for @OsuMj and anyone she suckers into hiking, the Townsend Historical Trail runs right in front of the motel. Townsend Gateway Inn 8270 State Hwy 73 Townsend, TN 37882 map The rates shown below include all taxes. This is an estimate per night based on four nights. 3 - Cottages, max occupancy 4 (1 queen bed, 1 sleeper sofa or futon, $130.82/night) 2 - Suite, max occupancy 6 (2 queen beds, 1 sleeper sofa, $126.23/night) 8 - Double Queen Rooms, max occupancy 4 (2 queen beds, $104.43/night) 8 - Single King Rooms, max occupancy 2 (1 king bed, $99.84/night) 9 - Single Queen Rooms, max occupancy 2 (1 queen bed, $99.84/night) Pictures of the rooms/cottages. Rollaway beds are available for a fee that can also be reserved. All rooms/cottages have a hair dryer, coffee maker, refrigerator and microwave. The cottages also have a full kitchen, picnic table, and grill. All rooms require confirmed reservations with a credit card. Any unconfirmed rooms will be released back to the motel. Confirmed reservations that are cancelled less than 14 days prior to arrival will be subject to a cancellation fee equal to 1 night plus tax. Reservations can be made by calling (865-238-0123) or online at http://www.townsendgatewayinn.com using code OR2018.

Shannon and I were traipsing around in TN/NC/GA today. We rode to Clayton down 28, and due to weather we turned around with the intentions of finding alternate riding North. In Franklin I decided to go to Robbinsville for lunch. Check the GPS and saw Wayah Road looked great from the map, was clear of rain, and I remembered the name having been tossed around as a good ride. But if I recall, the condition was in question. I proceeded ahead, hoping to add its curves to my local knowledge, and lo and behold, the middle section has been repaved. 5 miles at each end are still a little rough, though not bad at all. Maybe 80/100. But the middle 20 miles is brand new asphalt. And damn is it a nice stretch of curves. There's a sweeper on that road better than any in the area. Amazing. Anyway, thought someone would appreciate the report. Have at it! Wayah Road is back!

I have more invested in my gear than he plans on spending on a bike.

Thanks again for making the trip gents, need to put something else together now.

Truth. The only way it gets better is a TRS.

I was summoned. I myself have not used a foam cannon/gun but the general thing I see on r/autodetailing is that the cheaper Amazon ones work just fine but the name brand ones can be worth the extra money sometimes for warranties and such. Check out the subreddit sometime, full of information.

Buy a Ninja 250. I'm 6'2" 220 and my first bike was a Ninja 250. Rode it for a year and 5000 miles and sold it for about the same price. Carbs are not a problem if your ride regularly. If it has a carb it has a choke. No big deal, pull it out when you start up the bike and push it back in when its warm. My Ninja had carbs and so does my current DRZ400. If you are looking for budget transportation then the EX250 is a good idea also. Better than 60 mpg and inexpensive tires that last a long time. Bigger sport bikes go through expensive tires pretty quickly.

I've personally never had any issues using my canyon dancers... I've used them a fair amount as well.

Did it come with extra batteries?

In, Gateway Inn is very nice clean place with great staff. Enjoyed my stay there this year and definitely looking forward to 2018. Pending this and smoky mountain crawl dates.

HilljackTT!

Awesome! Pikes Peak is on our bucket list. Looking at your pics, rethinking later in the summer for our trip though

Agreed. And it probably was the #1 resort when everything was fresh and new. They have everything right there

I bought a NoMar Cycle Hill changer used. It has paid for itself. They sometimes pop up on Craigslist or forum's classifieds.

Cool. That's the best place to learn and practice.

14 pages, "U can Do EeeeeT!"

I'm not confident with my skill level, which is why I'm doing a track day.

Have you set aside money for proper gear? I know it is commonly overlooked.

You should be fine for your first day. Not sure what your skill level is but those tires can handle the fastest novice pace and then some. I wouldn't go out and spend money on new tires until you become hooked.

Only thing this thread has resolved is he wants a bike that is classed somewhere between these two bikes.

They should be fine for a novice track day if you stay in one of the middle groups. If it's super hot they will start to feel greasy toward the afternoon. I have run the pr2's and pr3's on the track with no problems. Just watch tire condition as the heat builds and don't hamfist the corners.

@TheBrown57 will probably have an excellent suggestion

Went from my house to coolville, couple hour ride.

I was pretty sure you were going to make the leap once I saw you start hauling ass on the Cherohala. You definitely looked comfortable on the bike and it didn't take you that long to get a feel for it.

AH yeeeee

Just over 4 days, a little more than 1300 miles, 4 states, & 2 countries. 4 women, 2 Ducati Monsters, 1 Yamaha R6, & 1 Silverado carrying a Supermoto and all the rest of our gear. Unfortunately our trip contained a crash not long after we crossed into Canada from MI, and after a 5 hour delay at a hospital we continued on without our injured rider. Luckily she only suffered broken bones and road rash... it could have been much worse - the whole thing happened almost right next to me and was very surreal. Once we arrived at the event, there were bikes everywhere at the campground (all kinds from old Royal Enfields to BMW GS1200s to Triumph Scrambers to Harley cruisers and a few supersports). There were 550 women that arrived for a weekend of camping, free drinks, karaoke, live bands and some really beautiful riding thru the Catskills of NY. The weekend was perfect for riding, until Sunday when we left for home. We left early trying to beat a storm, but still hit downpours thru PA that soaked us completely thru our raingear, so we had to stop to dry out and wait for the storm to pass. This was an epic journey for me as I've never taken a motorcycle trip, let alone go camping, all with women I'd never met in person either. I had such a great time meeting women riders from different states and going on my first all women group ride (there were 15 of us)! It was a blast and I hope to go back. And, yes there were lesbians there...

What a classy lady! What did ya name her?

It is the cycle. Just not how serious the seller is about letting it go.

Thanks durk! Is this the actual cycle? I mean if it is the feej of @NinjaDoc, then I of course will buy it. I mean think of the infamy of this cycle.

If the $1,800 Ninja is still available I'd buy that thing ASAP. Anything you find on Craigslist is suspect to start with, and if the ad doesn't have a phone number you might as well not waste your time. I scanned the Cincinnati craigslist just to see what you had available and only saw like 1 or 2 ads that were close to what you are looking for, and neither of them were any better than the Ninja. Plus you have someone from this site recommending the seller. I would trust anyone on this site without knowing them much more than anyone you are dealing with on Craigslist. Good Luck

Wow, that looks awesome! Congrats on the new ride. I've trailered my bikes all over when I was traveling in the service and it's not too bad. Now you got me thinking about trailering mine on vacation with the family. Well if I ever get time off for a vacation that is lol.

Putting this on my calendar, really going to try to make it.

Did you test the Speed Triple before settling on the Street?

You wanna cut me a deal on the Ohlins rear shock?

Nah, Just the ones friends with you

Townsend perfect choice, good clean and ideal location, and 45 mins to gap is a nice seo kind of ride and not a crappy trafficy slab we are talking. Am In

Search will be broke. You will never find it.

I'm going to write my premium on my insurance cards so the next year when they send me a bill and I need to replace the card anyway I won't have to look up what I was paying before. And I'm going to post it on ohioriders to keep me from forgetting.

Not dry and a full real grocery store a mile down the road. And no more hauling trailers across the Dragon.

In. I know this place and the area. It is where I always stay when I am not with you folks. It is perfect. I suggested it last year but it was too late to change. Casper forgot I mentioned it and refound the place on his own. So we have the positive opinion of someone that usually hates everything and a retard independently. So we are good to go. You folks will love this place. And yea, you get Foothills Pkwy and the dragon first thing with no traffic. It also makes Maggie Valley and all those amazing roads reachable.

I highly recommend a 90 minute massage after 6 days in the saddle.

Why am I such a little bitch?

Green w/ envy here. I'm in for next year if at all possible.