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Well said Tim. I started riding with Dave L and Bill B from Core in 2001 I think. Loved the corners but I sucked and was slow due to lack of skill and saddle time. Over the years I've logged about 250,000 miles. Most of them in Southern Oh. I can honestly say that when riding I rarely blow a corner, don't use brakes much and feel comfortable riding the speeds we do. The small group I ride with does ride fast. Who leads depends on the day and how we feel. We all have had days where we just don't feel it and have broken off. To put it bluntly, slab about 100 miles to get to the Twisties and don't want to ride at 50%. I only get out every 2 or 3 weeks and want to wick it up a bit. Sorry if our rides have offended anyone. We often keep our rides private.....Maybe we need to continue doing just that.

handlebar rule is bureaucracy at its finest.

I went with the PipeWerx CarbonEdge.

Caspers quote system, annoying noobs since 2016.

pull in clutch move toe up or down on lever release clutch

I blame theroamr for posting a ride without describing it correctly. I bet the rest of the guys riding with him were acting like jerks too. It's a requirement if your are going to ride with that group. Something, something fight club something.

Here's my .02. I love riding with the smooth guys... I won't say fast, because they don't look fast, they just look incredibly smooth. The bike is on rails. Then they just fade off into the distance ahead of you. I enjoy the tow from the fast guys because I like to watch how effortless they make it look, but I only like following predictable guys. Even if you aren't fast, if I know your tendencies, I enjoy following. If you are sporadic and unpredictable, it really can hurt others' focus and generally means you are riding over your head. A rule of thumb is a lot of the times if a group really wants to ride hard, they likely won't let guys that can't be vouched for into the group. I know in past Epic Ride years guys have tried to jump into the fast group only to be told no because of the pace they were going to be running. In the past, the group didn't do this, and newer guys paid the price. If you join any of these rides that people put up for everyone, they will wait for everyone at route changes. No-one will mind waiting 5 minutes for people to ride their own rides, rather than waiting hours for ambulances and tow trucks cause you crashed riding over your head. Edit for typos.

I plan on either having a Super Duke GT or a Super Adventure T for next season. Uncle Punk refuses to ride with me as long as a have a Harley....

No way CBUS is worse than Cinci area

Sweet.

Any old guy bike will do. Hell, on my way down to the ride Sunday I followed behind an older gentlemen on a Harley bagger that was holding an admirable pace. I stayed behind him for about 5 miles or so just to watch. We both stopped to gas up in Coshocton & complimented him on being a 1%er so to speak. He said that the Ohlins helped but none the less. Don't think I'll go the ADV route myself as I've got my eye on something European that looks very comfortable but will be more in line with the CBR than the Ninja in the Twisties department. (That's after I get the new phone, by the way.)

sent to the 2 that ignored me and a nicer version to the one that responded.

There's no magic pill for this. What @NinjaDoc told me a few years ago was miles. You just need to put down miles in the curvy stuff. And that's just what I did. I went on many long rides by myself just concentrating on different aspects of riding. After a few thousand miles I returned to some of these group rides and I was doing much better. I'm still not fast nor claim to be but I think I can hold my own now. What I did always do (and continue to do) was ride within myself. Within my abilities all the time, regardless of who I was riding with. As for the random acts of God, i.e. Trees falling and deers crossing, nothing is gonna solve that completely. You just have to put yourself in a position to deal with the unknown the best. Whether that be the pace you are riding or the line you take into a corner. For example a lot of us on the street take an outside to inside approach. We go into the corner on the wide side of the lane which allows us to see the furthest through a particular corner, hopefully giving us enough reaction time if something were on the other side. But that's not going to completely protect you from the unknown.

Counter-steering & gyroscopic balance = motorcycle Otherwise = Car As stated, they have 3 wheels so they can duck NHTSA regs... That's it and that's all.

It means that if you work really hard on your gaycycle you can keep up.

I'm pretty pleased with mine. It's definitely not a GoPro, but it's not $300 either. The waterproof case seems to be well made although I haven't tested it in rain yet. Some of the "16 fascinating accessories" are junk but there are enough brackets to make it work. BTW, I just checked on this again and clicked on the white one. It's available for $38 without a promo code. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716ZKZVC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=efdb4b2455bd11e78478c24b30196ae70INT&ie=UTF8&smid=A1A8FD47CX6KBN&th=1

Only if you want to get fancy

This is a risk we take as motorcyclists. We can't predict creatures running across the road or a tree limb falling out of the sky. You can be 100% right, but you can also be dead right. If riding a motorcycle was risk-free, everyone would do it. This is also why gear is important.

I hope so, I need seat time after mido last year and the gsxr needs dialed in for the endurance.

If I wasnt married I'd follow her everywhere like a puppy dog. Or a dirty old man, take your pick.

Had to. They only let you sign up in what you were in last. Had to addition for a bump. Bump was granted when he got tired of following the coach and passed him then left him. 390>600

Trails were awesome, nowhere near as muddy as i thought, with all the rain Friday night. Keith had to pull a few down trees out of the way to get to P3 around 9am. So the parking lot was empty when we got there. I was wondering why P1 & P2 were so packed! We had 7 in our group, 3 bikes, 3 Trx700xx's and 1 Phoenix 200. My shoulder help up for about half the day. We rode from 10am till around 7pm, when my older boy cut a tire. Luckily we were only like 2 1/2 miles from the trail head, and it was a front tire. So it wasn't to bad for him to limp it back to the trailer.

Dunno, but Jschaf has a spreadsheet under his seat to tell you what tire pressure to run in your tires based on current ambient temps.

See what threads titled "Polish" attracts.

I get people coming thru my BRS class to get an M endorsement to dive this thing... Any boy do they have no idea how to ride a bike... And by all means, they don't need to. It looks like a car, sounds like a car, stinks like a car, it's a freaking car. Why Ohio makes you have an M endorsement is beyond me.

When I started wanting to be a serious rider, and not someone who happened to own a motorcycle...I was lucky enough to ride with some highly talented, sensible riders (CORE). They were many levels above me in those days. They could ride much faster and make it look way easier. I picked their brains every chance I got about body position, lines, suspension, etc. I'd ask them to follow me and critique. I used gas stops like a 10 minutes riding lesson. IMO that was the best way to learn how to correctly ride a motorcycle...I never quite did get the track day bug.

Absolutely agree. Some of the folks on this board WILL make you a better rider because of it. @Tonik is one of them. I always try to ride about 75% of my comfort level just so that patch of gravel or slip in the road doesn't cause me to panic and do something silly

We need pics of said sister.

"Pace won't be mach retard but will be brisk. Wear gear, and ride your own ride, we wait when route changes." ^^^^^this last sentence is what I like most about the O.R. Rides I've been on. When the last rider makes it to the intersection there are smiling faces waiting. "Ride your own ride" seems to hold true. Some of these guys are damn fast and when they need to scratch that itch I'll see them at the next stop sign. Hell I hope someday I can handle a bike that well. I think the way @theroamr posted this up is a good thing. Tells me that if you drop off it's no big deal they'll happily hold up at the next stop. That's a pretty welcoming attitude. I think the only way we figure out who we're comfortable riding with on here are open invitations like that one.

The speed of the ride leader, or other riders in NO WAY should affect your speed. Your speed should be based on your skill, confidence, and how you prefer to be riding that day. End of story. If I'm content following the rider in front of me, I'll stay there. If not, I may pass in a straight, or the next time we change roads. If I want to chill, I'll either drop way back, or let someone know that I'm going to split off and do my own thing. In any case...I am riding MY ride.

I agree with you, but everyone I've ridden with seems exponentially faster than I am on roads with curves. I could use the practice but feel like it hinders/annoys other riders so I just don't join. I want to ride because I love it, not spend the day with anxiety because I feel like I'm slowing everyone else down.

Seeing that you've joined in 2008, I would have thought you knew the normal characters around the forum. Myself and most of the board members know when certain people post a ride, what the expectations are for that ride. That's just how it is. I'm sorry that you got some bad news during the ride. If it effected you that much one of two things should have happened, you should tell the ride leader what was going on and see if they could work with you. Or, you drop off and head for home. Any ride at any pace is dangerous when your head isn't in the right place. I was up sunday morning, geared up, ready to ride down and meet up with you guys, but I had tweaked some suspension the day before and didnt get a test ride on it after. That was enough to make me bail last minute. (Also only saw this ride at 1230 the night before so I would've been NinjaDoc'n it.) I know those guys that signed up for the ride, I knew that my head wasnt in the right place in the morning. So I gave up a beautiful day to play it safe and play with myself..... I mean play by myself on my bike. Next time, just let everyone know whats going on! No one here is going to give you shit about mentioning something because you are concerned with safety or the pace.

English isn't his first language.