Casper Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj 88 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 #3 Lol!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBBaron Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The frustrating thing for me is that my fatherinlaw knows this but still chooses to ride without any kind of gear. He has decided to sell the bike rather than be "constrained". I have not often heard these myths except to dispel them. I guess I don't know the "right riders" Craig Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Myth no. 2 is always my favorite, because I hear it the most. Others: Ape Hangers give you more leverage for turns. A motorcycle can be turned simply by leaning to one side of the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I personally don't care how people ride... but I do find it ironic that some believe the very gear that will protect them in a crash is touted as unsafe, yet making lots of noise is somehow a safety feature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Myth no. 2 is always my favorite, because I hear it the most. Others: Ape Hangers give you more leverage for turns. A motorcycle can be turned simply by leaning to one side of the bike.While I agree that ape hangers are stupid, you cannot turn a motorcycle without turning the bars. The bike will not lean unless you turn the wheels out from under it.Shifting your weight (on its own) will not cause the bike to turn. Edited September 19, 2013 by redkow97 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 While I agree that ape hangers are stupid, you cannot turn a motorcycle without turning the bars. The bike will not lean unless you turn the wheels out from under it.Shifting your weight (on its own) will not cause the bike to turn.Definitely. I have heard from inexperienced riders that believe the myth that a motorcycle can be turned strictly by leaning on it. The video Twist of the Wrist 2 has a really good demonstration regarding this issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) While I agree that ape hangers are stupid, you cannot turn a motorcycle without turning the bars. The bike will not lean unless you turn the wheels out from under it.Shifting your weight (on its own) will not cause the bike to turn.tell that to pro riders that use their bodyweight to turn the bike. I've seen it discussed by pro's on tv about doing it. some of them need new boots every few races because they push so hard on the pegs it wears out the soles fast. I've tried it and can't seem to get any results. many claim that's how they get it to turn so fast. Edited September 19, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) skip this video to 9min Edited September 19, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 tell that to pro riders that use their bodyweight to turn the bike. I've seen it discussed by pro's on tv about doing it. some of them need new boots every few races because they push so hard on the pegs it wears out the soles fast. I've tried it and can't seem to get any results. many claim that's how they get it to turn so fast. Oh god not this shit again. Turning the bars quicker is what gets it to turn so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Oh god not this shit again. Turning the bars quicker is what gets it to turn so fast.you didn't watch the video. you know who scott russel is? look it up. if a ex champion and current yamaha riders school instructor says that's how it's done then I believe him. Edited September 19, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 you didn't watch the video. you know who scott russel is? look it up. Yes, I know who scott russel is. I have see this shit in action first hand with teaching to back it up and actual used it to get the bike to turn quicker, it wasn't with the pegs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 "I laid 'er down to avoid a crash" is an oxymoron, often repeated by some other kind of moron. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Yes, I know who scott russel is. I have see this shit in action first hand with teaching to back it up and actual used it to get the bike to turn quicker, it wasn't with the pegs.well you must know more than him you're the current/former champion of what? Edited September 19, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Myth 10: It's Better to Stay in Your Lane than Split LanesIn most parts of the world, motorcycles split lanes all the time, everywhere traffic is heavy. Here in the U.S., people often act as if lane-splitting is insane. But when someone actually studied it in the only place in the U.S. where it's legal (California), they discovered it's actually slightly safer than staying in the lane in heavy, slow-moving traffic. Still many motorcyclists berate others who do it, when they should in fact be endorsing it.Read more: http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/#ixzz2fNAbxigy Here we go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 well you must know more than him you're the current/former champion of what? Because the school I went to doesn't have any and where is the school he help out, that's right, it's in the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 +1 for ABS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 tell that to pro riders that use their bodyweight to turn the bike. I've seen it discussed by pro's on tv about doing it. some of them need new boots every few races because they push so hard on the pegs it wears out the soles fast. I've tried it and can't seem to get any results. many claim that's how they get it to turn so fast. Lee Parks' book, "Total Control", addresses this. I don't think it's the pegs according to the reading I have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Kieth code already disproved the whole leaning and foot peg thing in twist of the wrist 2. He proves that the only thing that makes the bike turn is the front wheel turning. Pressure on pegs or leaning of body weight just offsets the center of gravity slightly causing the bike to attempt to right itself by turning the bars. So even tho you get a little bit of turn, its only because the bars are moving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Agreed that leaning won't turn a corner, but it will turn enough to change lanes or swoop through sweepers.I'm pretty sure that riding with "no hands" covers the "leaning will turn".And don't go out and try this. It's not worth a crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) I give anyone $1000 plus my bike, trailer, and all my gear the minute they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can turn in a motorcycle at speed into a corner by only leaning off with no hands on the controls. I suspect I'll still have all my shit and whomever attempts this will have a pile of wadded up bike. So...who's first in line?? Edited September 19, 2013 by r1crusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 You all are missing one key fact: the bars are free moving even when your hands are not on the bars. Yes, the bike will lean and change directions with no hands on the bars, but that doesn't mean the front wheel isn't turning on it's own slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 You all are missing one key fact: the bars are free moving even when your hands are not on the bars. Yes, the bike will lean and change directions with no hands on the bars, but that doesn't mean the front wheel isn't turning on it's own slightly. Yes it will but not anywhere near fast enough to make a lap around a race track at speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 That's my point, even when you lean, you move the bars to turn ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 That's my point, even when you lean, you move the bars to turn ;-) Sorry, misunderstood what you typed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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