Tonik Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 While I am very glad there is one less motorcycle thief in the world, this really isn't the way to handle it. http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2017/03/streetsboro_man_accused_of_fat.html#incart_river_home_pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinNck1 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 It doesn't sound like it was handled well at all. I hate thieves just as much as the next person, but shooting them in the street just isn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 It sounded like they tried to take the bike back violence free but the guy tried to steal it again. No sympathy from me. At some point there's no deterrent for the thief not to try his chances every time until a case like this happens. How many bikes did get away with stealing/selling without getting shot before this one? But it sounds like we was stupid and pretty easy to catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 They never should have been there in the first place. They knowingly went into a bad situation armed, he has no defense for shooting the guy. When he found the bike, on Craigslist I would assume, he should have called the cops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 ^Fashbook How do you know it's your bike before seeing it? Asking for a VIN will spook them Cops were on the phone when perp tried to run. Bike was stolen in Feb, Johnson's father, Shawn Johnson, told FOX 8 News his son had the bike for only about three months after buying it from a friend and had no idea it was stolen. "He told them he didn't steal it and he bought it, and he wasn't just going to give it to them. They could give him some money, they could have it back. And he tried to leave and they shot him," Shawn Johnson said. A caller was on the phone with 911 when the shots were fired. The caller was attempting to get officers to the scene to help them convince Johnson to give back the stolen bike. Noises, like a motor revving, can be heard on the call. http://fox8.com/2017/03/21/man-charged-in-deadly-akron-shooting-over-stolen-dirt-bike/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashesbuck Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Ya know... I bet if thet would have asked an officer to assist before they ever meet up, they would have been turned down. Asking for a VIN over the phone would spook them, as stated above. Can get a cop to come with you... If you blow this opportunity to catch them now, and they get away then what?.... If it were me I would have took a good look at the bike, disabled it somehow, so it wouldn't start, pull a plug wire, kill wire something, then sent someone away, to set in the car and call police to get them there as fast as possible. Trick is to make sure the bike cannot be easily started, and to get police there unknownly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Jesus, the dude that got shot didn't steal it...and he thought he was getting robbed. Sorry, but shooter needs to spend a good deal of time in the slammer. Thanks for the full story @motocat12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: Take the key? If it's a dirt bike it won't have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, Isaac's Papa said: Take the wheels? That could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 So a quick criminal search on the dead guy...Receiving stolen property, fleeing after conviction, attempted criminal offense...3 or 4 convictions. He may have known what he bought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBBaron Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, Tonik said: Jesus, the dude that got shot didn't steal it...and he thought he was getting robbed. Sorry, but shooter needs to spend a good deal of time in the slammer. Thanks for the full story @motocat12 From the news report the bike was stolen Feb 4. The kid did not have it for 3 months like his father says. Also a kid is trying to sell a bike he can't have owned for much more than a month in the winter. Sorry I'm not buying the story. Sounds like the story always given when trying to sell stolen goods and you get caught. Still I agree handled poorly. The story about the danger to others sounds like a story also. Not a happy ending for either party 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 another video says stolen Last Feb. looks like the diseased had a booking photo in one story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 But did he get his bike back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Could have been handled better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 looks kid sized 65-80 why did a 24 yr old have it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 46 minutes ago, motocat12 said: looks kid sized 65-80 why did a 24 yr old have it? easier to wheelie through the akron streetz bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, Isaac's Papa said: That doesn't mean anything. My wife rode a KX-85 for a while. You gonna shoot her for it? To be fair, she probably fit on it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I said -80 85 puts her 6.25% over the threshold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 bad shoot. no reason to take life in defense of property. i'd rather a thousand bikes get stolen than have a family deprived of a loved one. your opinion may differ, but i dont care about your opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: i'd rather a thousand bikes get stolen than have a family deprived of a loved one. So no exile either? heck in out of state prison some can't afford to go visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 It's Akron, every dirt bike in this zip code is stolen. You should see some of the idiots that get busted near my office in the summer. Seems like a weekly event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Everyone is focused on the guy being shot "over a dirt bike". What if there is truth in the guy on the bike trying to hit the shooters daughter as the article mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, motocat12 said: So no exile either? heck in out of state prison some can't afford to go visit. Don't be a dipshit. This is in the context of killing someone. Of course thieves should be locked up for their crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, cOoTeR said: Everyone is focused on the guy being shot "over a dirt bike". What if there is truth in the guy on the bike trying to hit the shooters daughter as the article mentioned? I'd wager that there wasn't enough closing distance between them for him to gather much speed, and if there was, it would give her ample time to move behind a tree/vehicle/building/telephone pole etc. But I don't know all the facts of the situation, so I can't be sure, but I'd say it's a damn good bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) I dont think anything that went down at the scene matters much. He got into his car armed and intentionally drove to a dangerous situation. I believe he lost any claim to self or loved one defense before he even got there. IANAL Edited March 23, 2017 by Tonik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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