TimTheAzn Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jester_ said: The R6 is absolute money when it comes to the track. Only 600 that comes close is the 675. Yamahawkins strikes again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Jester_ said: The R6 is absolute money when it comes to the track. Only 600 that comes close is the 675. Keep enjoying that coolaid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4iguy Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Jester_ said: The R6 is absolute money when it comes to the track. Only 600 that comes close is the 675. 675rrrrrrrr foreverrrrr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobhawkins Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hahaha Jim, you can take my 675 out for a ride next time we get together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) edit: im a dummy Edited September 11, 2017 by TimTheAzn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobhawkins Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: Perfect, then I'll buy Jim's current 675r so he can upgrade. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, jacobhawkins said: Wait, what? totally mis-read something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 Interested to see what you end up with considering the circumstances, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 10 hours ago, what said: Interested to see what you end up with considering the circumstances, Jim. It will have to have ABS whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinNck1 Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, Tonik said: It will have to have ABS whatever it is. I was wondering this. I don't know the situation cause I wasn't there, but do you think ABS would have caused a different outcome in your crash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, JustinNck1 said: I was wondering this. I don't know the situation cause I wasn't there, but do you think ABS would have caused a different outcome in your crash? Yes, but what happened is still on me. I have 60K with ABS on the Whale. So I am mentally trained to brake like I have ABS if I feel the need. It's a great way to do it, until you don't have ABS. Then it really sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinNck1 Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Tonik said: Yes, but what happened is still on me. I have 60K with ABS on the Whale. So I am mentally trained to brake like I have ABS if I feel the need. It's a great way to do it, until you don't have ABS. Then it really sucks. OK. As I am looking for a 2nd bike right now myself, I am trying to stay clear of non-ABS bikes just because I've grown so used to having ABS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've never ridden a bike with ABS or TCS. Interested in trying one out someday. I would imagine ABS complicates brake fluid changes though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, what said: I've never ridden a bike with ABS or TCS. Interested in trying one out someday. I would imagine ABS complicates brake fluid changes though... Not on the Whale, don't even know it's there other than there is more fluid to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 FJR brake fluid changes are easy, as long as you don't let air into the abs block. Basically, you push the old stuff out with new fluid and keep going until it comes out clean. It's a little tricky because they are also linked brakes, but as long as you keep both reservoirs from going dry and sucking air, you're good. Get a couple bubbles of air in there though and you'll spend the rest of the day getting them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) If track only I wouldnt get something without ABS. I mean it can have it, but you will end up taking it off. Edited September 13, 2017 by Jester_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUYZFR1 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jester_ said: If track only I wouldnt get something without ABS. I mean it can have it, but you will end up taking it off. I still have abs on mine and haven't run into any issues on track yet. Also the unified braking helps keep the back settled under hard braking since I never touch the back brake. It has also helped my confidence in trailing know the front isn't going to lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 18 hours ago, PhilD'oh! said: FJR brake fluid changes are easy, as long as you don't let air into the abs block. Basically, you push the old stuff out with new fluid and keep going until it comes out clean. It's a little tricky because they are also linked brakes, but as long as you keep both reservoirs from going dry and sucking air, you're good. Get a couple bubbles of air in there though and you'll spend the rest of the day getting them out. Made that mistake of letting my reservoir go dry once on mine. Took me 2 days to get a good feel back in to the lever. Did the zip tie trick over night worked awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 hours ago, OSUYZFR1 said: I still have abs on mine and haven't run into any issues on track yet. Also the unified braking helps keep the back settled under hard braking since I never touch the back brake. It has also helped my confidence in trailing know the front isn't going to lock. Really? Theu must have figured it out on the R1. Thats about the first I have heard of it helping on the track, and I can see how it would help unless its too intrusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUYZFR1 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Jester_ said: Really? Theu must have figured it out on the R1. Thats about the first I have heard of it helping on the track, and I can see how it would help unless its too intrusive. Most guys I know that removed it didn't even try it out. There are plenty of guys faster than me but having ABS on the bike isn't holding me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Clearly pretty much everyone here knows more about the track than I do. But I just can't see how ABS would be a problem on the track. You can still use your brakes just as hard...am I missing something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackbikez Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Unless you're a WSBK or MotoGP-level rider, I'd trust a computer designed by vehicle dynamics professionals with many hours of track testing, over my right hand when it comes to braking. But that's just my personal opinion. I've never had a bike with ABS, but I consider it a feature rather than a detriment to improving safety and lap times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 I don't know anything about the track, but from those I've talked to, you have to be very good to out brake a modern abs system. That said, MotoGP bikes don't have it. You Rossi, Marquez, Dovi caliber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, PhilD'oh! said: That said, MotoGP bikes don't have it. That might be due to it being banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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