kiggy74 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2012/may/29/8/young-boy-shot-head-ar-1052593/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 This is not "an unfortunate accident", this is manslaughter(or something like that) due to parental neglect...and the parents should be charged as such... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgenton22 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 This is not "an unfortunate accident", this is manslaughter(or something like that) due to parental neglect...and the parents should be charged as such...Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Keeping guns out of the hands of kids is not the answer. Keeping guns out of their hands without you present and under strict supervision is the answer. I get what you meant by the title, but still. I have taken my nephew shooting once so far. He knows not to touch a gun if he happens to see one. I taught him that early on too. When my nephew starting coming around all the guns got put up where he can't get them. All are behind lock and key! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Three Year Old!Three.You can't teach a three year old not to touch something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Three Year Old!Three.You can't teach a three year old not to touch something...Sure you can. I taught my nephew not to touch guns at 3. He was very very curious about them and I had to make it very clear. We also drilled it in him not to touch the stove so he didn't get burned.Talking With Your Child About Gun SafetyThere is no particular age to talk with your child about gun safety. A good time to introduce the subject is the first time he or she shows an interest in firearms, even toy pistols or rifles. Talking openly and honestly about gun safety with your child is usually more effective than just ordering him or her to "Stay out of the gun closet," and leaving it at that. Such statements may just stimulate a child's natural curiosity to investigate further.As with any safety lesson, explaining the rules and answering a child's questions help remove the mystery surrounding guns. Any rules set for your own child should also apply to friends who visit the home. This will help keep your child from being pressured into showing a gun to a friend.http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/infoparents.aspTeaching Grades Pre-K - 1stDepending on the comprehension level of children, some terms may need to be explained. For example, children may not understand what is meant by the phrase, "leave the area." The teacher is encouraged to discuss the concept of "area." It is the room, the house, the playground, the street corner.If the children are not familiar with guns, it may be necessary to explain or show graphically what a gun is. Children may have seen people using guns on television. The teacher is asked to explain that guns on television are toys. People on television shows pretend to be shot and die. It's not real. In real life, in all cases, children must follow the above safety practices when they encounter a firearm. They must understand the potential harm that may occur if these safety practices are not followed. Guns are not toys.http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/whyteach.aspAs a matter of fact I just ordered a copy to go over with my nephew. Edited May 29, 2012 by crb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Guns do not kill people. Jazz hands kill people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Sad to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Eh... you can instruct a three year old to not touch a weapon' date=' but I'm not sure you can teach him. [/quote']I don't know about the "teaching" him as I never tested it. At about 4.25 years old I accidently left the pellet pistol out on the couch, and he showed up by surprise. He told my wife "why did honey leave that down where I can get it?" and walked away. Wife picked it up. Pellet pistol was unloaded of course. All firarms are behind lock and key unless on me.Either way very sad. Parent and adults should be more responsible not only with firearms, but anything that can harm(Knives, chemicals, etc) a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I heard this last night on the news sad to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Three Year Old!Three.You can't teach a three year old not to touch something...Agree.....would not be the norm for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Keeping guns out of the hands of kids is not the answer. Keeping guns out of their hands without you present and under strict supervision is the answer. I get what you meant by the title, but still. I have taken my nephew shooting once so far. He knows not to touch a gun if he happens to see one. I taught him that early on too. When my nephew starting coming around all the guns got put up where he can't get them. All are behind lock and key!I know what I meant to say, and I said what I meant. Sure you can teach a 3yr old to not handle a gun. You can also teach a dog to play the piano, but that doesn't mean he's going to do it.Lock up your shit, end of story. Kids this age can't be expected to be responsible for their own safety regardless of how much teaching you think you've provided them. And when dealing with guns, a simple oops can mean someone's life. Lock up your shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) So kids should never be allowed to touch a gun? You title says "keep your guns out of your kids hands". I agree keep them locked up, but I don't agree with keep them out of your kids hands. I agree with keep them out of kids hands without strict supervision.You guys give kids no credit, NO I don't leave guns out. We told my nephew when he was like 2 or 3 that thr stove was hot, he asked if it would burn him. Did we still watch him and remind him? Yes. But kids cam learn at a young age, or my nephew is super bright which i dont believe.We never leave him unattended either and we don't expect him to be responsibile. I was amazed at how well he remembered things like the stove is hot. Lucky for me all my firearms were lost in a tragic boating accident so I don't have worry. Edited May 30, 2012 by crb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is precisely the reason I refuse to keep them in my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is precisely the reason I refuse to keep them in my house.I've had guns in the house all the time my son has been alive. They are locked up or on my hip. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is precisely the reason I refuse to keep them in my house.That's a valid reason. I weighed the pros and cons before making the decision on firearms in the home as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I've had guns in the house all the time my son has been alive. They are locked up or on my hip. Problem solved.That's a valid reason. I weighed the pros and cons before making the decision on firearms in the home as well.No, no, no...I was talking about kids. I'm all good with guns in my house. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 LOL. I don't like kids in my house either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiongetter92 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 No, no, no...I was talking about kids. I'm all good with guns in my house.:rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm all about educating kids about guns, and getting them exposed early in life. Every kid is different, as is every parent, but.... there are limits, and 3 years old is too young. These things weren't created to be toys, they were created to be lethal weapons. You wouldn't hand a 3 yr old a grenade and teach him to just not pull the pin. At any rate, this certainly doesn't even really matter in this case. A loaded, ready to fire weapon was left within reach of a 3yr old boy even though there was at least three adults in the house. And for their mistake, this boy lost his life.Lock up your shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 No, no, no...I was talking about kids. I'm all good with guns in my house. this is exactly what I was going to say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen3flygirl Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 No, no, no...I was talking about kids. I'm all good with guns in my house.^this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mmDale Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is a heartbreaking story. No punishment in the world could make that parent suffer more than they are right now I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I grew up on a farm where a gun was a tool and part of our way of life. I was taught from a very young age that it could KILL me and that it wasn't a toy.Parents that treat firearms in the same manner as porn only encourage curiosity and interest. If you want the child to have the same respect for a firearm that one deserves, show the child what the firearm can do. Then they won't point it at themselves or a friend ever. I think they should teach kids about guns in school.....give 'em a range day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is a heartbreaking story. No punishment in the world could make that parent suffer more than they are right now I bet.Agree....except I feel they should legally suffer some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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