V8 Beast Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Seeing all of these threads about "LS1 vs. every other engine out there" has made me think. How much money have you actually put into your car, and what are the results??? This way we can show people out there how much it really takes to make a fast car. So we need total cost, dyno numbers/quarter mile numbers, the engine you are working with, and the car its in. I'll go first LS1 in a 2001 WS6 LS1's have got to be some of the most expensive cars to mod (if you do it right). Yes you can go cheap... but you get what you pay for! This is the quick break down from my mod spreadsheet. Keep in mind that I havnt even started on the block yet. WS6 Store $5,795.86 Rossler Transmission's $4,494.00 Jegs $4,110.39 Billingsley Racing $2,711.00 Ls1tech $1,750.00 MISC $973.47 Nitro Daves Nitrous Outlet $798.70 Ebay $702.48 Umi Performance $609.97 Summit Racing $432.90 Total: $22378.77 (on go fast parts alone) 420rwhp through an A4 on motor. Numbers on spray... my little secret http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/xxtheonlyxx/Picture260.jpg Ok, now lets see which engine cost the least amount to mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I dunno even where to start. This is a project. Do you want retail pricing or actual paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 1987 MR2, 1.6l 4AGELC Bluetop, 120 hp stock, dont know what it has lost or gained since then. 16.5 Quarter Mile stock Car: $1500 Oil Change: Free (Had coupon) Exhaust work: Free by me and some friends Brake Work: Free by me NAPA Fuel Filter: $15 Bosch Oxygen Sensor: $40 including shipping from Rock Auto Sway Bar End Links from Twos R Us: $105 including shipping Bosch Iridium Spark Plugs + Anti Seize: $40 New Plug Wires: $10 Distributor cap and rotor: $20 Royal Purple 10W-30: $20 NAPA Gold Oil Filter: $6 through work NAPA Premium Brake Rotors: $45 for the front 2 Porterfield Street and Autocross Carbon Kevlar brake pads for the front: $75 from Twos R Us Duralast OE Replacement Brake Pads for the rear: $20 Speed Source Brake Master Cyl Brace: $75 from Twos R Us Tires sometime this week hopefully: may be upwards of $400 Not really going for power though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99BlownYellowGT Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I don't keep track if I did I probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I dunno even where to start. This is a project. Do you want retail pricing or actual paid? I went with price paid. I got a lot of used parts from ebay and LS1tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/gearhead559/funny%20shit/90notchavatar2.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Almost $8K, then sold to party for a full month down in Austin, TX and in Dallas @ the Clubhouse aka tity bar. So a whooping $300 for lid/filter/3in cut out. I drink too much to mod my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 pulleys--$300 port--$700 exhaust--$400 intake--$150 injectors--$450 MAFx--$50 boost a pump--$250 wheels--$550 springs--$250? handheld tuner--$400 dyno tuning--$400 total blower belt/misc--$100 TOTAL: about $3200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 i think this car will make you all look cheep and it doesn't even run 1967 camaro $5,500 DSE stage 3 front suspension $3,500 DSE mini tub rear suspension kit $1.351.95 DSE sub frame connectors $175.00 currie aluminum rear axle $2,896.42 Budnik 18x8 front rims $1,220.60 Budnik 18x12 rear rims $1,868.40 DSE fire wall fill panel $65.00 Fuel Safe fuel cell $791.15 Mich Pilot Sport tires $1241.35 Baer rear brakes $1,128.00 Baer front brakes $2,162.99 Master Power T40E turbochargers $1,000.00 Stainless steel body bolt kit $140.00 total------$23,041.86 just on this build. the 3rd time i built it because i get bored of it. notice you see no powertrain or drivetrain or interior since i have about another 20k in parts i still need. that doesn't even count small stuff i have like epoxy sealents cleaners and all that jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/gearhead559/funny%20shit/90notchavatar2.gif i'm stealing that for my avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 My old ride: 93.5 Supra cam gears--$300 clutch--$700 down pipe--$150 exhaust--$700 fields harness--$275 Greddy BCC---$95 Line Loc--$250 Greddy BOV--$300 AFC--$100 2-step--$150 boost control--$75 Poly bushings -$750 K&N--$35 Wideband--$300 Total--$3850 engine parts--$1260 start 320 hp at the fly wheel end 471 hp at the flywheel counting 15% drivetrain loss net gain 151hp $8.34 per hp gained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 i'm stealing that for my avatar pimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I was going to steal it.... but I was too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 My old ride: 93.5 Supra cam gears--$300 clutch--$700 down pipe--$150 exhaust--$700 fields harness--$275 Greddy BCC---$95 Line Loc--$250 Greddy BOV--$300 AFC--$100 2-step--$150 boost control--$75 Poly bushings -$750 K&N--$35 Wideband--$300 Total--$3850 engine parts--$1260 start 320 hp at the fly wheel end 471 hp at the flywheel counting 15% drivetrain loss net gain 151hp $8.34 per hp gained I heart supra's modibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 What I have in it now? upper pulley, lower pulley, exhaust, intake, injectors, MAF, BAP, Tune, wheels/tires: ~$2450 Spray will add another $1250 to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I was going to steal it.... but I was too late http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/gearhead559/funny%20shit/allatok07xx0.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k2gt Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 2002 Mustang GT Hensler racing $4900 assembled longblock Steen racing $1800 p&p with strong valve springs and new valves MP $250 Oil pan MP $200 SFI Damper HP Turbos $6000 Twin turbo kit with complete front suspension HP Turbos $1050 New larger turbos Jegs $200 Oil drain lines for turbos Boostvalve. $175 boost controller Ebay $400 New bov's and wastgates Ebay $250 scavenage oil pump for the turbos Sean Kelly $3000 Pa super comp c4 setup complete Neal Chance $1200 Reworking the tq converter twice Jdm $920 fuel upgrade Ebay $350 Deka 60lb injectors HPS $700 New 2v intake Ebay $300 accufab upper plenum Ebay $400 Dyno Jet Wideband Ebay $250 Boost and fuel pressure guages with dash pod Ebay $300 31 spline axles and spool Ebay $940 Weld draglites and tires MM $400 roll bar MD.com $275 BAP installed MD.com $900+ Lots of tuning Shifflet Auto $620 Rebuild broken C4 Ebay $100 Replacement input shaft for c4 Jegs $250 replacement front pump for c4 MD.com $500 replaceing head gaskets and installing valve springs MPH.com $250 endura-tech valve springs ? $360 new billet oil pump gears to replace broken ones Ebay $200 caster camber plates Ebay $150 bump steer kit Update Jegs $51 Phanton transmission gauge Jegs $58 Phantom oil pressure gauge Jegs $32 two gauge pod ebay $109 8.8 rebuild kit with all bearings ebay $150 8.8 spool ebay $150 c-clip eliminators R&S $500 install of above parts ebay $140 double adjustable upper control arms ebay $90 solid upper axle bushings ebay $131 c4 transmission shield ebay $45 upper control arm mounting reinforcements ebay $276 manley nextek high load valve springs ?? $1000 the rebuilding of c4 transmission again BF $900 new tq converter col-weld $550 Repairing cylinder head Hensler $800 refreshing my engine ModularDepot $2850 installing 10-point cage, custom cams, valve springs, fuel upgrade and retuning the car. The best 1/8 mph 1/4 mph 6.86 109.53 10.57 134.79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 car=$99xx Skip shift=$40 After Wed=$350ish for LTs ORY and Cutouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 A lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Engine 5 angle valve job AC & PS delete Accel Spark Plug wires AN Fittings and Braided hoses Arias 11:1 pistons ARP head studs ARP rod bolts Balanced crank Blueprinted Block Bored .5mm Over Decked Block Engine Rebuild Freeze plugged injector ports Greddy Oil Catch tank Holley FPR Holley Fuel Pressure gauge HVLP Fuel Pump Jegs Fuel Filter Jegs Header wrap Koyo Radiator Modified Stock distributor Modified Stock harness Mr. Gasket slim fan & thermostat MSD Blaster2 coil MSD Fixed Timing Control MSD6AL Ignition NGK Plugs New Oil Pump New Water Pump Paradise Racing Carb manifold PASS Oil Cooler adapter plate PASS Under-drive pulley kit Pauter Rods Portmatch Setrab 19 row Oil Cooler TODA 304/288dur 8.5lift cams TODA Cam Gears TODA Timing Belt TODA Valve Springs TRD .5mm headgasket TRD 1SZ-FE Underbucket Shims TRD 4-1 Header TRD Thermostat Weber 45mm DCOE Carbs Weber Jets & Chokes Weber Linkage kit Weber Softmount gaskets Transmission GTS LSD rear end with disc brakes Illegal Garage Clutch Low Mileage tranny 0 Rebuilt and shimmed stock LSD Suspension KYB AGX's Paradise Racing front coilovers 8kg Prothane Bushings Short Stroke Conversion Strut Bars Techno Toy Tuning Camber Plates Techno Toy Tuning Lateral bar Techno Toy Tuning RCA's Techno Toy Tuning Upper Hats TRD Japan rear racing springs 7kg Brakes Brembo Blanks PBR Pads Rebuilt calipers Interior Autometer Pro-comp tac Autopower 6pt cage Corbeau Bracket Corbeau Seat Cusco Spin-turn knob G-Force harness Grant 2inch Hub Grant Wheel GTS passenger seat NRG quick release Uncracked black dash(rare btw) Exterior Cressida lip Fender Roll Repaint Total Mods 80 Total Spent ~$14,410 USD Status: Still needs work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Around $120. K&N drop-in filter, cap & rotor, plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrblunt Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Enough to make me want to do a header off a very tall building. Last time I added up receipts (before this last bit of work), it was 18k in after market parts (and I have receipts for most of this). Add the 20k I paid to Ricart for the car and you come to one ridiculously expensive pofs dsm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 2002 Mustang GT I know there's alot more that I don't remember. That's $27230 and doesn't include the stuff I had when I ran the 5 speed. Last year with the little turbos it ran a quickest of 10.64 and the highest mph was 131.8 and that was with a race weight of 3700lbs. This is what I was looking for. If I replaced my nitrous kit with a twin turbo I would be at $27k as well. The biggest difference is that I havn't purchased a block yet. I also noticed that you didnt list your suspension mods. I'm going to assume you have them because your car is fast as hell!!! So, basically it costs around $3000 less to mod a GT. An average priced pre-assembled block would take me up to around $32000 (with a TT). 98-02 Trans am/Z28 - The price is usually $2k-$7k more than an 01-03 GT To make a reliable sub 10 second car will cost a lot. You are looking at a good $55k+ with the car included. When you get done you will have a car that can 60' like a beast and has top end power. 700rwhp can put you in the 9's. 01-03 Mustang GT - The car cost makes this a lot easier to buy. Not everyone has perfect credit, or enough money to afford high monthly payments. This makes it one of the easiest cars to mod for the buck. $30k for mods, $15k for an 01' GT with 30k miles. $45k to make a complete/reliable 10 second car. When it's all said and done you could have saved over $10k by getting a Mustang instead of an LS1 car. 03 Cobra - Around $4k-$6k more than a WS6/SS/GTO on average Very easy to mod, price is high, but the ability to mod makes it cheaper than the LS1 and the GT overall. It would cost about $40k to make a monster with the cost of the car included. I have seen that a lot of them like to spin. It takes some severe foot control to put the power to the ground. If you have a lead foot this may not be the best car for you. 93-98 Supra TT - One that is 100% stock can be up to $20k more than a Cobra They are easy to mod, but the car is expensive. In the end this may seem funny, but you can make a 900hp Supra for less than it takes to make a 900hp GT. My only issue is that it takes a lot of HP for them to run low numbers. Most of them with around 900-1000hp are running 10's/11's. If you can afford to pay over $36K for a used car then it's worth it. Most people mod their cars over years. Getting a Supra is like having the cost of 90% of your mods added to your loan payment. If I didnt have a car I would do my best to get into a Supra. These cars are sexy! 6 cylinder cars - Cheaper than a Mustang GT, but can cost more to mod than an LS1 car. I have noticed that it can cost a lot of money to turn a v6 (not inline 6) into a 10 second monster. In the end I have seen it take up to $60k-$70k total. If you are doing autocross these cars are the middle ground for straight line racing and taking on some curves. 4 cylinder/rotary cars - ... I have no clue Evo's are sweet, and I have read about plenty of 4 bangers eating up autocross tracks. I have seen some RX7's destroy Corvettes, and some Neons roll race with Vipers. I would assume it costs more than a 6 cylinder to make it run 10's. Hope this helps you guys that are looking to buy new "race" cars. Now all you have to do is decide which style is good for you, and which one is more comfortable. YES I AM THAT BORED RIGHT NOW I feel like I should go work for Car and Driver Magazine LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 6 cylinder cars - Cheaper than a Mustang GT, but can cost more to mod than an LS1 car. I have noticed that it can cost a lot of money to turn a v6 (not inline 6) into a 10 second monster. In the end I have seen it take up to $60k-$70k total. If you are doing autocross these cars are the middle ground for straight line racing and taking on some curves. Before Dyno: bigger turbo: $400 Cam 212/212: $150 Tune: $75 Tranny built: $750 Aftermarket TQ Converter:$500 engine work before put it car:$650 suspension stuff: $1000 fuel pump:$95 intercooler: $450 total: $4070 Dyno numbers were ~277hp and 300 tq car went 12.1 @ 113 stuff im getting ready to do Cam: $150 Heads: $600 Intake ported: $250 Headers: $250 ext. wastegate: $75 tublar k-member: $300 New downpipe: $100 4" exhaust: $150 Total: $1875 Hoping car will go 10's this year Grand total including $1200 engine/tranny cost: $7145 I'm sure that number is low because i forgot some stuff but that is all the major things i could remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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