Have you been to the Columbus Casino yet?

[Cheech]

Just got back from Hollywood Casino a little bit ago. I have no idea what these craps dealers (can't speak for anything else, didn't/couldn't sit down anywhere else) have been doing for the last however many weeks their training was, but 80% of the croupiers there were missing bets, putting bets on wrong numbers, not paying out bets, paying them out to the wrong people, or most egregious of all, pulling bets when they should be paid out. In the span of 2.5 hours, I literally had all these things happen to me, as well as croupiers and pit bosses taking 5 minutes to figure out how much to pay out a single bet, a croupier shuffling a active bet stack of chips around a number, holding up the entire table until she could figure out where to put it

Any other craps players out there, I'd hold off at least a month or so before you give it a go. It's seriously amateur hour out there.

[Gunner75]

If i remember correctly their training is all done in house by experienced dealers from other casinos. Probably due to the trainee's not grasping the whole idea of how to play. Ive never been a fan of craps, Im more into Black Jack, and Roulette.

[Cheech]

If i remember correctly their training is all done in house by experienced dealers from other casinos. Probably due to the trainee's not grasping the whole idea of how to play. Ive never been a fan of craps, Im more into Black Jack, and Roulette.

I figured as much, and I still don't give a shit. They've had however long to get a grip on this stuff, and even with all that time they still managed to break almost every single rule out there with regard to handling a bettor's chips. It's not like they've only been on the job for a week, they've had weeks of training to ramp up to this. I'm sorry, but you don't fuck with my money while I'm playing.

[TSB67]

It's that way throughout. I was nearly enraged with the first four poker dealers I saw Tuesday night. You had to tell them what to do and even who won. It's like they were charity cases from the local MRDD or something. I made a snarky comment to the manager in passing and he said, "It's only their second day, give them time." I also heard since it's the first casino in the area, no one in the area is skilled. I happen to know several skilled people that were rejected based on "personality" or whatever. I expected whoever got hired at least new how to play the game - I didn't expect them to let these people learn during live action. It seems to have gotten better since, or maybe I've just been lucky in the rotation. There are some experienced professionals in there, I guess I just expected them all to be.

[Tigerpaw]

Do they have their own hotel?

[ReconRat]

Interesting. One of my high school friends is a blackjack dealer there. And yet another friend is so skilled at blackjack he'd do well walking in cold. Shoot, I'd probably do ok at dealing blackjack without any training. But you're right, they probably wouldn't hire him (or me). I think I'll ask him if he would try for a job there for fun.

Are these full time jobs? If not, the labor pool is limited to the unemployed, retirees, and not much else.

edit: And do they have enough dealers to relieve those that get rattled? I think not. Swapping out a dealer is common.

Edited October 13, 2012 by ReconRat

[jester3681]

Do they have their own hotel?

No - in fact, the Hyatt at the Grandview Yard on Goodale won a seven figure law suit against the city when the location of the casino got moved. I guess it was in their plans and contract that they would be the closest to the casino.

[MidgetTodd]

I plan on going tonight

[jester3681]

Sorry to hear about the poker tables - poker and blackjack are about all I play at a casino.

As for the craps tables... can't say I've ever played craps...

[Pokey]

Sure glad I dont gamble.

[buildit]

I don't gamble either but I have a party to attend there tomorrow so I'll see if it's all it is hyped up to be.

[Gunner75]

I dont know bout the other 3 but there was an add in the plain dealer over the summer where they were hiring for dealer positions supposedly they started out at 45grand. And the positions were full time with benefits. Required an FBI background check and a credit check. I was tempted but i didnt want to have to move to the Cleveland area

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[TSB67]

Pretty sure the poker dealers get waitress pay plus tips. Heard they got minimum wage for the four weeks of training. Full and part time positions are still listed on the website. In addition to background/credit, can't smoke and can't play there.

[flounder]

Just got back from Hollywood Casino a little bit ago. I have no idea what these craps dealers (can't speak for anything else, didn't/couldn't sit down anywhere else) have been doing for the last however many weeks their training was, but 80% of the croupiers there were missing bets, putting bets on wrong numbers, not paying out bets, paying them out to the wrong people, or most egregious of all, pulling bets when they should be paid out. In the span of 2.5 hours, I literally had all these things happen to me, as well as croupiers and pit bosses taking 5 minutes to figure out how much to pay out a single bet, a croupier shuffling a active bet stack of chips around a number, holding up the entire table until she could figure out where to put it

Any other craps players out there, I'd hold off at least a month or so before you give it a go. It's seriously amateur hour out there.

Thats bad and borderline illegal I would say.. Im a dice guy and that would piss me off to no end. I would definitely have raised hell if that happened to me.

[MidgetTodd]

Stayed for less than an hour. Crowded and not overly impressed.

[Loch Rob]

Sure glad I dont gamble.

Yup....... :0

[Cheech]

Thats bad and borderline illegal I would say.. Im a dice guy and that would piss me off to no end. I would definitely have raised hell if that happened to me.

My only regret is I didn't raise hell to the pit bosses when I was there.

[ohdaho]

I had the same experience saturday as Cheech had mentioned...only it was to my benefit at the craps table. Kid looked like he was 12 and could not do simple math. After my friend's hot rolls, we quickly left. Table mins everywhere were ridiculously high considering the crowd.

Blackjack dealers were absolutely horrible. When I got dirty looks for doubling down on 8-3 while the dealer showed a 3...he's absolutely idiotic. Roulette was even worse. It took nearly 5 minutes per spin. That place had potential, but the dealers and staff are horrendous.

Thurman's for the first time was a plus tho.

[Cheech]

Interesting. All my croupiers were older guys, easy mid to late 40's. Some women as well, about the same age. All of them couldn't do the math necessary to effectively do their jobs to save their lives.

You got dirty looks from the DEALER when you doubled down on 11? Jesus.

[buildit]

Well we had a good time tonight and as a group we left +$15, Oh Boy! But we spend much more for dinner at the final take restaurant. Good food but a little light on portions although you'd never know there was a bustling casino right outside the door. We only played slots as none of the party were big gamblers. When we did ask the concierge for help and information they seemed very confused and frustrated the kiosk was still broken and were out of casino brochures. So overall not bad but they have a lot of work to do to get things running right.

[slingingchic]

My sisters boyfriend works there, place has been packed non stop. They have to make money to give the money I'm kidding.... place should pay out soon enough.

[ohiomike]

Seems they would want more payouts initially to get the word out that it pays to play there.

[Cheech]

Seems they would want more payouts initially to get the word out that it pays to play there.

I would think they just wanted people to have a good experience and not deal with completely incompetent dealers. That doesn't involve any changing of the payouts at all.

[OSUYZFR1]

Went last week and only played blackjack and yes the dealers suck. About everything they should do well they suck at. Slow shuffling, dealing, basic math, etc. Can't imagine the craps dealers with everything they need to keep track of, lol. Only good thing was I won 250.00. I still don't like gambling in these regional casinos though. The clientele and atmosphere is nothing like Vegas.

[Cheech]

Craps dealers (or croupiers, learned something new today ) don't really have to keep track of a whole lot since there are 2 of them, not including the stick and the pit boss that counts the money. All they have is their own side of the table to contend with.

I'm willing to give some concessions to slow card dealing as that's not something that's learned overnight. Dealers practice that shit for years, and they've had maybe a month. But the blatant and repeated math errors and pulling the bets when they should be paid out, that's something I can't get over.

I'm planning on giving them a few weeks then going back (because I'm a lush and like craps), preferably during non-peak hours if nothing else than to see if the table minimums were lowered. Although I understand why they did it, $25 is a little spicy.