JStump Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://jalopnik.com/jeeps-moab-safari-concepts-reveal-a-new-obsession-with-457153036I really like the Trailhawk II, and I bet that Wrangler Mopar Recon is fast as hell! American cars are actually appealing to me again Discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 look good but too lazy to look into the specs and price to see if they are worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I love Dodge/ Jeep styling, but I don't view them as very dependable/ reliable/ quality vehicles, which is too bad. Oh, and that whole bailout thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I put 20k miles on a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon in one year...not a single problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleaveTheGreat Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I love Dodge/ Jeep styling, but I don't view them as very dependable/ reliable/ quality vehicles, which is too bad. Oh, and that whole bailout thing....This. I almost bought a Grand Cherokee but their terrible reputation for reliability changed my mind. Also, the first one blatantly rips off the design of the F150 Raptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Wheeler Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Minivans with big tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollnhot Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Only dirt they'll ever see is when some yuppie pulls it on the lawn to wash it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester3681 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I put 20k miles on a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon in one year...not a single problem.Except a fender fell off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howabusa Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I like the Wrangler. I hope my 2011 Wrangler turns out to be a good vehicle. I have only put 3000 miles on it so far. It will be seeing some dirt out west this summer, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Fast as hell??? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howabusa Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Fast as hell??? Really?Not really, but they will go about anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I gotta call bullshit on the Dodge reliability slam. My '09 Ram had 107k miles on it in three years with just regular maintenance items required and it's still running strong now that it's no longer my work vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 This may not be a good apples-to-apples analogy, but mannnnny years ago, on our honeymoon, my wife and I rented a Chrysler Sebring (I think...) convertible while in FL. We decided to run over to Cocoa Beach from Orlando one afternoon, and on the way over, it started to rain. We put the top up, and continued on our way. We started feeling splashes/ drops/ moisture on our faces. Not only was the front edge of the convertible not sealing, but water was coming in around the windshield (between the glass and the seal). Oh, and the car only had 700 miles on it. Lots may have changed since 1992. Dunno. Never had any other brand do anything like that to me, though. Two neighbors had jeeps (one a Liberty and the other a basic Cherokee with the awesome straight six). The Liberty seems to do okay, but the Cherokee guy got tired of working on his. Had the dash out at least twice in 18 mos for bad heater cores. Then it was little sniggly stuff. Same guy had two Chrysler mini vans, and both were junnnnkkkkk. Don't know why he kept buying them. Now he has a Civic and a Pilot, and loves them.Boss at one job had a Grand Cherokee, and it was ALWAYS in the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I gotta call bullshit on the Dodge reliability slam. My '09 Ram had 107k miles on it in three years with just regular maintenance items required and it's still running strong now that it's no longer my work vehicle.You got a "Wednesday vehicle". Or one made in Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 You got a "Wednesday vehicle". Or one made in Mexico.Whatever, jackass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 My FSB is already lifted but raising up the Ram to fit some 35's has been on my mind lately but it'll also have to be setup to tow a 5th wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howabusa Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I can put 33s on the Wrangler without lifting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew95gt Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep have the designs I like, by far the best looking American cars IMO however I had a bad experience with my last MOPAR product (2006 Dodge Magnum). I LOVED the looks of the Magnum, but it suffered transmission issues, rear end issues, etc. I actually miss the Mag, wouldn't mind finding an inexpensive R/T model...just wish they were reliable. I may have just had a lemon because I have heard nothing but praise for the 300/Charger which is essentially the same car just different body style. Those Jeep's are sick in the pic, hopefully they bring some fuel efficient diesel models over soon like they sell in the European market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) i traded a '94 Grand Cherokee with 200k on it in 2004 (it was mechanically sound, no rust, but the wife du jour said it "needed to go" ), the Ram 2500 that replaced it has 140k on it now and is also just fine, mechanically and cosmetically.maybe i'm lucky, i dunno. change the oil and filter every 4 months or so with mobil 1, sneeze in the tires, new paper $3 air filter every year.i've had 3 audi cars, will only buy another if i can find a 1 year old model with an 'audi-assured' (their version of certified pre-owned) warranty. too much fancy crap on them that can AND WILL break. one of my co-loafers at work is prez. of the M-B club of central ohio, and he has the same issues with his M-B cars - has 3 of 'em. they seem to go in the shop at least 3 times/year.never owned a jap car, only drove one once. next summer when it's 'new vehicle time', may have to give one a shot. Edited March 21, 2013 by jblosser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I gotta call bullshit on the Dodge reliability slam. My '09 Ram had 107k miles on it in three years with just regular maintenance items required and it's still running strong now that it's no longer my work vehicle.How is the body holding up? I noticed that newer dodge truck rot out very fast for the price they charge. I have seen 05 trucks with more rust then my father-in-laws old 89 dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 How is the body holding up? I noticed that newer dodge truck rot out very fast for the price they charge. I have seen 05 trucks with more rust then my father-in-laws old 89 dodge.05-06 was a bad year I think, in-laws I'd rusted over wheel well. They had it fixed and it is doing it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Plenty of turds come from Ford and GM as well, Chrysler still gets the bad rep at times from the much earlier years. When I worked for GE I went through 4 Chrysler town & country vans over 10 years, never had any issues other than replacing a few bushings in the front ends.......and I ran the piss out of those vans. The Ford and GM vans were unreliable total pieces of shit, hence why GE stopped using them for fleet vehicles. My Dad owned several Chrysler products over the years with little to no issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 How is the body holding up? I noticed that newer dodge truck rot out very fast for the price they charge. I have seen 05 trucks with more rust then my father-in-laws old 89 dodge.The body and frame are holding up well considering the salt mixture used up here in NEO with no rust issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat0403 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 The Jeep Grand Cherokee is mine, dibs, get away.....that is everything i want to do to it. Color is perfect and it has the diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I can put 33s on the Wrangler without lifting it.I've got 30's on my new Grand Am.... Custom painted, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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