Steve Butters Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 What a squid. Hope him and all his friends die a slow painful death before hitting a car and murdering 4 small children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj 88 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 At least he didn't cross the double yellow and he was wearing some gear. Why would you let the newbe lead? Never mind I made that mistake once, never again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 letting new guy lead makes it easier for him to set his own pace....instead of having him pushing his limits in the back trying to keep up with more experienced riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 letting new guy lead makes it easier for him to set his own pace....instead of having him pushing his limits in the back trying to keep up with more experienced ridersOr he keeps looking in his mirror feeling he is holding everyone back so he pushes it. Keep him in the back and make sure the leader is driving at the noobs pace. It takes a very aware and knowledgeable rider to lead a noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 parts for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Early apex, no body position movement, minimal lean angle.... Grabbing a handful of brake once he fixated and got scared sealed that one.Although the guardrail probably saved him from a serious injury.If the trail bike had hit the wrecked bike it would have been a nasty ending.I like how no one helps until asked. The guy driving the cage was the first to step up. Sad. Edited February 28, 2013 by BDBGoalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I prefer a pre-ride brief about route, signals, conditions, expected speeds, etc.Experienced rider familiar with roads in front and experienced rider in rear. Encourage the greener riders to not exceed their limits. Try to have the lead keep the pace down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Don't know if he was going too fast - the speedo on the VFR reads 54 at the point of the crash - I think the approaching car might have freaked him out. I remember early on feeling that way when a car would approach in mid-corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj 88 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 letting new guy lead makes it easier for him to set his own pace....instead of having him pushing his limits in the back trying to keep up with more experienced ridersIn theory I agree, but from my experience it ends like this did. So I started leading at a mild to medium pace and kept an eye on the other rider. I like to see how they're doing then let them lead after they get some time on the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Here is the best reason (almost) noone should ever buy a brand new bike http://www.craigslist.org their are just way too many (almost new)used ones out there at 2/3's the cost or less. This goes for cars too in my book, i will never buy another brand new vehicle ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 This is why I like riding with small groups of experienced riders... Everyone can go their own pace and nobody has anything to worry about... The last trip to the shack me and marlboro man were a few minutes ahead of the other 3 bikes but nobody tried pushing it and nobody wrecked... Everyone goes their own speed and regroup at stop signsGroup rides (imo) make people ride faster because there is a lead bike to help navigate.. Of lead bike knows the roads, it takes some mystery out of blind hills and corners.... This video looks like new guy got into the same pace as the other bikes and just didn't have the knowledge or experience to hold it... He probably should have gotten more solo seat time before going out with a group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Mental note: Make sure that nobody with a camera ever follows me on a ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 ^^^ rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieG Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Love how the shit head wouldn't even help pull his own bike off the road. Although its probably hard to walk with the squishy he made in his pants.In the video description it said he broke his hand and arm, so I imagine he wouldn't have been much good at lifting a 400 lb object at that point. -Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I guess its time to lower the standard for the engine size people should start on. I let newbs lead if they are comfortable but I don't have a problem jumping ahead pulling over and telling them to ease up. If they aren't comfortable I ride really slow so they don't feel pressured to ride faster than they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Size of the engine doesn't matter if you can't turn...that guy would have wrecked a razor scooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew95gt Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 He stood the bike up mid corner while trailing the brakes...what did he expect was going to happen. If he would have trusted his bike and leaned more he would have been fine. This is why they preach to stay the heck off of the brakes mid corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitani Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Here is the best reason (almost) noone should ever buy a brand new bike http://www.craigslist.org their are just way too many (almost new)used ones out there at 2/3's the cost or less. This goes for cars too in my book, i will never buy another brand new vehicle ever again.Don't tell everyone that or we won't have nice bikes to buy used! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) wtf? He didn't even try to make that turn...IKRDon't know if he was going too fast - the speedo on the VFR reads 54 at the point of the crash - I think the approaching car might have freaked him out. I remember early on feeling that way when a car would approach in mid-corner.Yeah, that can freak you out sometimes, especially if the car is a cop lol Edited March 1, 2013 by SWing'R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm pretty certain we know what it's called. The point it happened on that slight bend in the road raises issue of lack of competence of the rider. Target fixation or not there is no reason to blow that tiny "curve"Camera video does not always do a curve justice. The wide angle lens ofmost cameras tends to make a curve look less on video than they really are.Not necessarily that this was the case here, just saying in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Damn, don't look at the guard rail, numnuts.....both are lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Size of the engine doesn't matter if you can't turn...that guy would have wrecked a razor scooter.I was being sarcastic it was more directed at people who say it should be a requirement to start on a smaller bike like they do in other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wow... a mistake like that could have ended much worse for new guy.And camera man was lucky as hell!Glad no one was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 regarding newbies leading or following in groups, from the OH motorcycle operator manual:Choose a lead rider and a sweep rider. These should be the most experienced riders of the group. The lead rider should look ahead for changes in road, traffic or weather conditions, and signal early so the word gets back in plenty of time to the other riders. The sweep rider is the last rider in the group, and sets the pace for the group. Place inexperienced riders just behind the leader. That ensures that they won’t have to chase after the group, and the more experienced riders can watch them from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I would have been very interested in getting out of there before some cager called the cops. I'd have had a truck on the way straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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